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Sir Michael Fallon Denies 'lewd Remarks' Allegation
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So.... it appears that Leadsom making a complaint to Teresa on Monday was the real reason that Fallon "fell on his sword"
He jumped before he could be pushed.
So.... it appears that Leadsom making a complaint to Teresa on Monday was the real reason that Fallon "fell on his sword"
He jumped before he could be pushed.
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I disagree, Cloverjo. People are entitled to work without feeling their colleagues are free to make lewd comments to them whenever they feel like it. These comments are said to have been made after Leadsom said her hands were cold; we'll just have to guess the rest. But I'd have felt upset if it had happened to me. It may or may not not be a crime, but I have no...
08:54 Fri 03rd Nov 2017
I wonder if we are getting a cross section of feminine opinion here, as all the comments that i have received from Mrs sqad and her friends is that she has had flirtatious comments all her life and so has her friends, but never...ever...considered complaining to "higher authorities" in fact she has taken many as compliments e.g "great pair of t1.ts" or "I bet she likes plenty of it"
But there you go as one of our female ABers said....." we have moved on."
But there you go as one of our female ABers said....." we have moved on."
mikey, I will answer your question although you rarely answer mine. I don't know why he resigned, I assume he thought it better to do so for the sake of his family, his party and yes, his reputation. Like so many "he said, she said" situations like this, when the truth seldom comes out, it's sometimes better to withdraw voluntary than to have the media and others, make up their own version of the truth and decide he's guilty no matter what he said.
The way to avoid these situations, and the fall-out from them, is to educate boys and girls to respect each other, and be mindful that what is meant in a remark, or behaviour, is not always what is received.
Remember Dave Lee Travis, genuinely baffled that women did not appreciate his being a 'cuddly tactile person' as he saw himself?
What the hairy sex-pest failed to understand is that, just because he liked laying hands on any and every woman within arms' reach did not equate to every one of them thinking it was just big cuddly old Dave, so it's absolutely fine.
People need to learn proper behaviour around each other, and to understand that harmless banter delivered can be sexual harassment received - and basically learn some dignity and respect for people around them, and more importantly, for themselves.
Remember Dave Lee Travis, genuinely baffled that women did not appreciate his being a 'cuddly tactile person' as he saw himself?
What the hairy sex-pest failed to understand is that, just because he liked laying hands on any and every woman within arms' reach did not equate to every one of them thinking it was just big cuddly old Dave, so it's absolutely fine.
People need to learn proper behaviour around each other, and to understand that harmless banter delivered can be sexual harassment received - and basically learn some dignity and respect for people around them, and more importantly, for themselves.
AOG - // I think these days, on being invited to a dinner party I would risk the chance of being called a 'racist', a 'misogynistic', or a 'homophobic' if I made a special request to be seated only next to Straight White Males. //
I am delighted to give you the benefit of the doubt here, and assume you are being heavily ironic in your seating request.
However, if not, why not avoid the straight white males who are like you, and sit with a gay / black / female, You could enjoy some more stimulating conversation, and learn that 'different' does not equate to 'to be despised and feared' - and you could learn a lot.
But as I said, I am sure you are being ironic.
I am delighted to give you the benefit of the doubt here, and assume you are being heavily ironic in your seating request.
However, if not, why not avoid the straight white males who are like you, and sit with a gay / black / female, You could enjoy some more stimulating conversation, and learn that 'different' does not equate to 'to be despised and feared' - and you could learn a lot.
But as I said, I am sure you are being ironic.
I know we're discussing Fallon here, but am sure there was a famous actress who murmured
'is that a gun in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?'
A lewd remark from a female!! well, there's a thing.
I think he told Mrs May that he had done worse than make 'lewd' remarks but didnt put that info in his resignation letter.
'is that a gun in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?'
A lewd remark from a female!! well, there's a thing.
I think he told Mrs May that he had done worse than make 'lewd' remarks but didnt put that info in his resignation letter.
jourdain2 - // I agree with Prudie, some time ago. Only yesterday an elderly chap we met in the supermarket said how young I looked to be Mrs J2 and that I was pretty. I replied 'Thank you, kind sir' beamed and felt good for ages. Was I supposed to be offended? This is getting ridiculous. //
I am sure you know the difference between overt sexual overtones in a comment from a boss or colleague, and courtly compliment from an elderly stranger - don't you?
I am sure you know the difference between overt sexual overtones in a comment from a boss or colleague, and courtly compliment from an elderly stranger - don't you?
When I hear about behaviour such as that which some men are being made ashamed of, I remember as a child reading a novel in which a father gave advice to his son about his behaviour at his new boarding school. Paraphrasing - it was something like "Never do or say anything you would not like your mother and sister to see or hear ...".
It was good advice when it was written, and it's good advice now.
The novel was Tom Brown's Schooldays, and it was published in 1857.
Plus ca change ...
It was good advice when it was written, and it's good advice now.
The novel was Tom Brown's Schooldays, and it was published in 1857.
Plus ca change ...
"I am sure you know the difference between overt sexual overtones in a comment from a boss or colleague..." I sure do but 99% of the time it wouldn't bother me. Certainly not enough to drag it through the media or employers. And as others have said I believe, making such a furore over such comments gets the real abuse watered down and washed away on the bandwagon.
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