Labour Faces Subversion By Momentum And Far Left...

[naomi24]

.....says Roy Hattersley.

///Labour is facing the biggest crisis in its history as the leftwing pressure group Momentum tries to purge it of moderate MPs and councillors in a systematic takeover of the party, former deputy leader Roy Hattersley has warned.//

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/02/labour-faces-subversion-momentum-far-left-roy-hattersley-watford-byelection

Is Labour becoming its own worst enemy?

[ToraToraTora]

lets hope so!

[lindapalmara]

Bring it on!

[mikey4444]

No....its part of the way that Labour is organising itself.

I might remind you, and every body else, that since Labour elected Corbyn, its membership and popularity has soared, as could be seen by this Junes Election results......3,531,187 votes more than Ed Milliband achieved in 2015.

[emmie]

for those of the right leaning nature one would certainly hope so.

[Jackdaw33]

Well, we all know whose side he's on.

[emmie]

so much for democracy in all its glory.

[cassa333]

The picture of the back of the tshirt did it for me.

Momentum
A new kind of politics.

Actually no. A very very old kind of politics. Nasty and insidious in the extreme. It will be a sad day for British politics if they achieve their purge. And devastating for the economy if they get into power on the lie that Labour and Momentum are helping the ordinary people.

[Jackdaw33]

Militant has lain dormant for 30 years but has never gone away.

[Gromit]

Corbyn’s Labour may not be going down well with the has-been Hattersley, but voters seem to be impressed.

// This time last year, Labour languished 15 points behind the Tories. This weekend, the latest Survation poll puts Labour eight points ahead. //

[sp1814]

Let Labour lurch to the left, with an equal Tory lurch to the right (under Reed-Mogg), to give the electorate a choice, rather than a fuddle-muddle grasp for the middle.

Then things should get really interesting.

[sp1814]

*Rees

(Bloody autocorrect).

[naomi24]

Gromit, //This weekend, the latest Survation poll puts Labour eight points ahead.//

No doubt the same hapless souls who believed Corbyn’s impossible pre-election promises - and still haven't taken the trouble to think about it. That red mist certainly blinds.

[jim360]

It's equally possible to be drifting away from the Tories, and therefore towards the only other viable choice for a government, numerically speaking.

The Momentum "plot" thing has been running since Corbyn was elected and it's hard to assess how big a scale it really is. For the record, I seriously hope that the reports are exaggerated.

[Khandro]

Momentum isn't 'Labour' and neither are it's supporters, they are really Communists, as is Jeremy Corbyn, who long ago realised the Communist party in the UK was washed up, so he joined Labour which he has, throughout his political career fought against every thing they tried to achieve and now he and they are hoping totransform the party from the inside.
They see a way forward in exploiting the naivete of the young who are now teaching the very young - I read of a parent discovering his child had been asked to write, 'Five good things about Mr Corbyn !'

[naomi24]

Khandro, Poor kid. I bet he struggled to answer that.

[Jackdaw33]

'Five good things about Mr Corbyn !'

You'd have to have a Ph.D. to answer that one!

[youngmafbog]

Roy Hattersley is not the only one though.

The problem with any Party leaning too far left or right is that whilst you please core voters you tend to alienate Middle England. and it is Middle England that decides the Government not core voters.

Is Labour becoming its own worst enemy? At the moment with the shockingly poor leadership from hapless May no I dont think they are. If the Tory's boot May into the long grass then I think Labour may have to be a little more careful

[Khandro]

It'd dead easy, when elected as PM, he's going to abolish university tuition fees, take money off those evil, rich people and give it to the poor and needy, then he's going to make Britain's streets safe from knife-wielding Islamo-fascist psychopaths by disarming the police (though that may have been John Mc Donnell- but same thing) He will get rid of the UK's nuclear deterrent and disband MI5 and MI6, and show solidarity with Hamas and Hezbollah in their 'armed struggle' against Israeli 'colonialism' and he thinks nothing of switching off his phone and spending a day working on his allotment, because he's 'green' and it's the right thing to be, isn't it?
"So you must see, children, he's our man of your future."

[sp1814]

I'm no fan of the direction the Labour Party is moving towards, personally, I find Corbyn too far left for me.

But...I like the fact that he is one of the few politicians out there who has convictions and actually believes what he says.

I never get the impression that his words have been sanctioned by a focus group. He's basically Jacob Rees-Mogg, in a cheaper left wing suit.

And with regards to the swing to Labour in the last GE, perhaps people were understandably fed up with the austerity measures which seem to have no end point. The Conservatives are the party which should be galvanising prosperity by cutting taxes and expenditure - and seeing as we've not had a Labour government since 1979*, we should be swimming in cash now and enjoying the good life.

People are asking, why aren't we?








(*using TTT's argument that the Tony Blair government were Conservative in all but name).

[Khandro]

sp; //But...I like the fact that he is one of the few politicians out there who has convictions and actually believes what he says.//

Who's gonna be first to say it? may as well be me. - So did Adolf Hitler