What Is Wrong With These People

[emmie]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5226091/Four-men-stabbed-death-London-New-Years-night.html

[EDDIE51]

Yes they were all in 'London' but in widely separated areas. London is so big they may as well have been in different towns. When I first saw this I assumed it must have been all in a single incident , but that is just the Daily Wail starting the year as it means to go on.
Stories are always reported in a manner that maximises outrage
(Daily Wail readers just LOVE to be outraged) and so increase sales.

[Smowball]

I live in Greater London and I’m so grateful at the moment that teen Smow isn’t living with me at the moment. You only have to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and yes, it can happen anywhere, but certain areas of London have such extreme gang culture. Then you get the kids who carry knives for self defence because they’re scared of the gangs and it just goes on and on..... I rarely see a police officer on foot anywhere, plenty in police cars though. It’s way too easy for anybody to buy a knive. You don’t get searched going anywhere these days - ironically the only time you are is on NYE if you’re entering a club or bar. I don’t know the answer but something needs to happen.

[naomi24]

Eddie at 08:38, your blasé attitude is something else that’s wrong with society. Young people killing other young people shouldn’t be so easily dismissed – but clearly it is.

[douglas9401]

The comments of Mikey and Eddie have sown the seed of an idea in my mind, see what you think.

London is a sprawling metropolis, vast and difficult to police. Why not chop it into manageable pieces and make coverage easier?
This would have the added advantage of making stabbings in the capital important again saving M + E from embarrassing themselves any further by attempting to appear coolly detached and unemotionally highbrow when patently they're not.

[Kromovaracun]

Of course 26 deaths is too many, and we should do whatever we can to make it as small as possible. The point is that it's already about as small as it's realistically going to get. London is a city approaching 9 million - some degree of violent crime is unavoidable. The homicide rate there is one of the lowest in the world among cities of comparable size. London is not suffering a knife crime epidemic.

[Kromovaracun]

Of course, whether or not London is actually safe is a completely different question to whether or not the people who live in it perceive it to be safe. They frequently don't. But that is a separate issue.

[dunnitall]

I saw on the news this morning that 80 people died from being stabbed last year! What has changed since I was young....rarely heard of stabbings or as many murders then....so why is so prolific now? I can't understand it other than say surely it must have something to do with upbringing.

People were brought up to respect others years ago and woe betide them if they didn't. Nowadays some youngsters don't even respect their parents or the police.... Something one would always do in those days.

[ummmm]

We didn't have 24/7 TV back in the day...

[Kromovaracun]

//rarely heard of stabbings or as many murders then....//

This does not mean they didn't happen.

I suspect 'hearing of them' is probably the main difference. If you grew up before the late 1980s, you grew up before the age of the 24-hour news cycle. If you grew up before the late '50s/early '60s, you grew up at a time when newspapers and radio were still restricted in what they were allowed to report (and indeed informally restricted by what was considered to be "in good taste" at the time).

[EDDIE51]

naomi, you miss my point. I DO NOT condone knife crime or any crime. I abhor the killing of any person by any other person, it can NEVER be acceptable , I include the death penalty in that statement.
My point was that the Daily Mail makes a habit of reporting every story in a way that will appeal to its readership. Of course all newspapers do that,but the Mail takes it a stage further and intentionally reports every story in a way intended / slanted to maximise outrage. As I said 'Daily Mail Readers' just LOVE to be outraged and the 'Wail' makes sure it unfailingly fulfils their expectations.

[naomi24]

Eddie, I haven’t missed your point at all. Your point was to deride the Daily Mail and its readers, something you’ve repeated in your latest post. This is about something that should concern us all - knife crime – not about Daily Mail content or readers. That said, if the Daily Mail does, as you claim, attempt to maximise outrage, then good for the Daily Mail. Some people need a kick up the rear end to help engage their brains because I’m pretty sure that’s where they keep them!

[tamborine]

These are feral kids from sink estates. Probably lacking paternal guidance & control. Its sad for kids reared likewise but alas they survive by their wits.

[emmie]

it was reported on BBC web link as well as on the BBC news last evening, so its not only the Daily Mail

[EDDIE51]

My view on the Daily Wail and its dubious reporting standards are reinforced every time I see a new item as reported by the Wail.
However in it's defence, I will say the Mail has some of the best news photographers in the world on its staff, its photography regularly wins awards, which is more than can be said fore its reportage.

[emmie]

Eddie
as i put above you this was on BBC news and online
so don't keep on blaming the Mail.