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mikey4444 | 08:09 Sun 07th Jan 2018 | News
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My best guess is that Hammond will be gone as Chancellor.....anybody else got any predictions ?
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Hunt co-authored the pamphlet arguing for that. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-hunt-privatise-nhs-tories-privatising-private-insurance-market-replacement-direct-democracy-a6865306.html...
10:25 Sun 07th Jan 2018
Good evening all – just back after a very pleasant lunch with my elderly parents.

I see that youngmafbog (15.07) has been contributing in a positive way.

There is a suggestion that my assertion that the US healthcare system is horrendous is 'unsubstantiated nonsense'. First, if that is a dig at me over my contributions to other threads here – I acknowledge that political debate is entirely different from scientific debate. Politics is, as someone once said, ‘the art of the possible’ Political persuasion is often about emotions, and persuasion rather than objective facts.

But the assertion was that the US healthcare system is horrendous – let me explain:

My sister has lived in the US for over 30 years. Her husband recently had a heart attack. We know from first hand experience just how expensive that is. Hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Second, I have many friends in the US. I have personally contributed hundreds of dollars to crowdfunding projects to enable them to buy medication or pay other medical bills, because they have a choice between feeding themselves or buying medication. When lack of medication will kill you, that is a tough choice. I choose to spend my money to help them out.

Third, one of my good friends in the US got cancer. He had been doing public work all his life, but did not have medical insurance. It was fortunate that he died after a relatively short illness, but still his wife, who also has cancer now has a huge medical bill to deal with, in addition to her other troubles. I contributed to his crowdfunding page as well.

Contrast that with my nephew in the UK. He found a lump on his testicle just before Christmas. It was quickly diagnosed as cancer. The part was removed within days and his recovery is now underway. At no charge.

I know which system I prefer to live in.

If you think that a medical system where people prefer to die than be diagnosed with cancer and leave their relatives with huge bills, or go begging on the internet is preferable to one where the NHS – with all its faults – can sort you out within a few days, then, my friend, I put it to you that you are in a small minority.
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Kidas....well said !
"At no charge."

Certainly at no charge at the point of provision. But no free )at leat to those who pay tax and NI).
Would you really prefer the US system, NJ?
// Mrs May has been putting the finishing touches to her first major reshuffle, which will promote more women and Tories from a black and minority ethnic background. //

What is wrong with just promoting the best people?
//What is wrong with just promoting the best people?//

I think that's a pretty good question. But I've got old-fashioned notions about, I don't know - honesty, common sense, decency?

You, like me, haven't kept up, have you, Gromit?

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Jo....no sane person could possibly prefer the American system of health care.
no their system is crackpot. However i am not sure how many changes Mrs May is going to introduce, I suspect that Hammond will stay put.
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Morning Emmie !

I, too, think that he will stay put. I don't really expect May to do anything very bold, as she is in such a weak position at the moment.

But I would like to see Hunt kicked out though !
Then prepare to be disappointed. Hunt is in line for promotion.
Morning mikey
why does Hunt have to go, and if he does where to?
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Emmie....10,000's of operations have had to be cancelled. People are waiting for hours, on trolleys in corridors and in A+E, and Hunt is "sorry"

We discuss the NHS quite often on here and there are all sorts of things that need to be improved and changed. But Hunt has been in charge for years.

At what point does he have to be held responsible ?
"At what point does he have to be held responsible ?"

At no point at all. It is quite fashionable to see Ministers held to account for their Departments' failings in day to day matters. It is no more Mr Hunt's fault that the NHS is struggling than it is mine or yours. He is in no position to cure the annual "crisis" that engulfs the service every year at this time. The people in a position to deal with it are the (multitude) of NHS managers. They will say they have insufficient funds. In fact they have more than enough money to run the service (which is about the only thing politicians have any real control over). It's simply that they are inept at spending it wisely. Any business that knows it will face two or three months of exceptional demand every year would plan for it and handle it. The NHS doesn't because its highly paid managers and directors are essentially inept.
'In fact they have more than enough money to run the service'

This is true. What they don't have is the manpower since the Govt stopped bursaries to fund Nursing degrees.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/jun/27/fund-extra-nursing-training-places-dropped-universities

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jun/18/government-reckless-axing-student-nurse-funding



There is no need for nurses to have degrees. On the job training is what matters.
I would agree completely but that's what the Govt decreed. I'm sure that's a contributory factor to the decline in recruitment too.
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Whether Nurses need to have degrees or not is not the reason that 50,000 operations have been cancelled, or why people are waiting hours on trolleys in corridors.

I see that Hunt has not only kept his job but has been given extra responsibilities for Social Care.

So now, he can make a hash of Social Care as well as the NHS.
even in today's climate, no one man can be held accountable for the woes of the NHS, its overstaffed with management, has more money year on year, but its not something that many are geared towards doing.
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Emmie...all that may be true, but Hunt is the Heath Minister.....he should either do something or stand aside and let someone else have a go. If t is true what people are saying this evening, about how the session between him and May went, then more fool May.

Far be it to praise a previous Leader of the Tory Party, but Hunt would have been kicked out long ago.
Justine Greening quits the government..

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