Morrissey And 'no Go' Areas Of Europe.

[Khandro]

On a recent thread, I pasted in a quote by him stating how within Europe there are places which for non-Muslims are "No go areas" (It was only one among a collection of quotes) I actually apart from vaguely having heard the name, knew nothing at all about the man, but have now rectified that;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrissey Quite an impressive career, and I find a fellow Mancunian.
Without any evidence to the contrary, his assertion has been dismissed on that thread by more than one person, seemingly because he is who he is !?
To support what he said, may I ask if any woman, wearing normal western clothing with uncovered hair (let alone wearing any form of make-up) would be happy to walk through the suburb of say, Paris-Seine-Saint Denis in the daytime, let alone at night, and could an orthodox Jewish man wearing his required kippah - the small skull cap worn by Jews to fulfil the requirements that the head be covered, and is worn by men in Orthodox communities- enter certain areas of some European cities, Berlin and Cologne for example, and was the statement wrong?

[Jackdaw33]

Give over, woman. I'm not taking criticism from luvvies.

[kvalidir]

No we're not Douglas, but sometimes people's biases are shouted so loudly that they are hard to ignore over the other nonsense. He can think what he likes of her and I can think what I like of him :)

[Togo]

There may be a reason Douglas.......Kvalidir once wrote, "and my current partner is a Romanian Roma,"".

[kvalidir]

You don't have much choice in that Jack, I have criticised you because you are rude and crass so take it or take it not, it's all the same to me lol

[Jackdaw33]

Oh my Lord. Pass the smelling salts Daphne.

[Islay]

Kval @1200 Bingo - Full house!

[Jackdaw33]

If you can find another 11 we will have a full coven.

[ludwig]

I don't know what Morrissey has said exactly, but just because he's a bit of a tawt who's said stupid things in the past, doesn't mean that everything he ever says must also be stupid and wrong.

That seems to be some people's approach, from the quick skim I've had through the thread.

[Voltage]

wait for it !!!

[Islay]

What's that matter Jack - don't like a woman standing up to you?

[kvalidir]

Jack has an enormous problem, with lots of things, but mostly with himself it would seem Islay :)

[anotheoldgit]

Back to the no go areas.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5177/no-go-zones-britain

[Khandro]

For those finding this too challenging to understand, I'll say it as simply as I can. The subject is "No-Go Zones in Europe", hundreds of people have said so, including me, and many thousands know it is a fact, because they have to live with it.
Because a person quoted as having said this is disliked by some people on AB, what he said is dismissed out of hand.
Let me re-iterate; Morrissey isn't the subject, no-go zones are!

[kvalidir]

Okay that's fair enough Khandro, the fact it's morrisey is neither here nor there, but you conveniently ignored the fact that I know both Berlin and Koln well ( having lived in both) and that I do not, repeat do not have any fears about any specific areas of those cities because of Muslims. I have Turkish friends in Neukolln and actually lived in Kreuzberg and no-one I know is in fear of that, so why propagate a blatant untruth?

[naomi24]

Khandro, you’ve given a quote from Morrissey in your OP on that thread that makes no mention of ‘no go zones’. If the quote I’m looking for is somewhere in the subsequent three pages of posts, which I really don’t want to trawl through, would you be kind enough to hook it out and re-post if here?

I think we have a problem when people, for whatever reason, ignore what’s really happening in Europe. It may be that they’ve never experienced aggression from incomers, or it may be that in their relentless support for immigration and immigrants they’re reluctant to criticise – I don’t know. However, there are problems in Europe that are being created by the proponents of Islam and denial will neither change it nor remedy it.

[Togo]

Who said this?
"We are a country which at the beginning of the 1960s actually brought [Muslim] guest workers to Germany. Now they live with us and we lied to ourselves for a while, saying that they will not stay and that they will have disappeared again one day. That is not the reality. This multicultural approach — saying that we simply live side by side and are happy about each other — this approach has failed, utterly failed."

Yep Angele Murkhell.
No Go areas are everywhere.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6264/no-go-zones-germany

[Khandro]

naomi, please return to that thread and look at Z. 13:39 Mon.

Kvalidir; When you visit your Muslim friends in Muslim areas of these towns, are you on foot, is it at night, if it was warm, would you wear a summer sleeveless dress with you hair uncovered? - just asking.

BTW, why would a Jew be in fear of attack by PEGIGA? I read that at least one is a member of their council.

[kvalidir]

Right wing think tank 'The Gatestone Institute', really Togo? Why not go the whole hog and quote the much respected 'Stormfront' instead eh? lol

[kvalidir]

To answer you, yes I have walked through Neukolln at 8 o'clock at night in shorts and a vest top in summer with uncovered hair, as have hundreds of other people, and actually the next time I do so, I'll film it to prove it, and put this nonsense to bed once and for all. NOTHING happens.

[sp1814]

Khandro

All you had to do is open the thread with a question about no-go areas, leaving Morrissey out of it completely. Because you used him as a lead off point, you opened up the very diversion you wanted to avoid.

naomi24 - there’s another reason. Some of us are the children of immigrants and don’t want to associate ourselves with those who make seeping generalisations about immigrants.

naomi24