Michel Barnier Doing A Really Good Job ...

[bednobs]

of convincing remainers they made the wrong decision. I didnt vote as i fundamentally disagree with referenda but if i had have voted, it would have probably been remain. However, seeing MB on the news tonight made me think why on earth would we want to stay?

[cassa333]

LOL TTT.

No honestly we don't have an empire anymore and our constituent parts want either independence or more freedom so we are only relatively small nowadays. But that doesn't mean we can't trade with the rest of the world and make use of whatever we want to. All the while we put vast amounts of money into world organisations we SHOULD be at the table. But we should be bullish on our wants and not roll over quite so easily.

The EU are quite rightly playing hard Ball. We always knew they would, even though we hope they will be reasonable they simply can't afford to. They have to protect their market and position within the EU community and to came out fighting, wether you are strong or weak, has always been a tactic.

It is just a tactic our own Remainers and weak Brexiters have not bothered to use.

I am beginning to see that Brexit could be a bit of a damp squid, not because it is the wrong decision but because we have suck a weak and pathetic negotiation team and negotiating tactic.

The UK team need to come out bullish and make demands and stop fannying around giving in so much.

Trying to keep everyone happy isn't working and won't work for the benefit of the UK.

When all is said and done I wonder how long it will take the Remainers to realise they have kept the economic status quo without the ability to expand by being shackled to the EU machine, paying in billions with NO say whatsoever. That will be the sad truth in the end.

[dannyk13]

Kromo
//completely at the mercy of the EU side, who have an obvious incentive against letting this go well//
Why on earth would you want to remain under the control of such a regime?

[bednobs]

lol@ "damp squid"

[Khandro]

Listen to the man fit for purpose, on my 22:21 Mon. vid. on
https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1591539.html

[Gromit]

// Doing A Really Good Job //

More like David Davis is doing a really bad job. //

When your opposition is useless and out of his depth, then an easy wim may look like a great victory, but it ain’t. Barnier is just doing his job competently as the EUs chief negotiator.
Competent is not on Davis’ CV.

[dannyk13]

Gromit
// the EUs chief negotiator//
What negotiation? The EU is dictating to us.

[Kromovaracun]

//Why on earth would you want to remain under the control of such a regime?//

Because it's more effective to work within it and align our interests than to make an enemy of it, which is what we are doing. That's the reality of politics.

[dannyk13]

Kromo
//
Because it's more effective to work within it and align our interests //
WE have already been told that we will have no say in the EU.

[Kromovaracun]

Well not now, obviously....

[Gromit]

Dannyk13

// What negotiation? The EU is dictating to us. //

But the EU has more to lose than we do.

Britain will go on to conquer the world againt after we are free of the EU tyranny, while the EU will wither and die without us.

We should be wiping the floor with Barnier, but we have a cretin with no negoting experience, in charge.

[youngmafbog]

//Britain will go on to conquer the world againt after we are free of the EU tyranny//

No we won't but we should do very nicely trade wise.

Your last sentence is correct.

[EDDIE51]

I agree 100% with Koromvaracun.
What is happening now is precisely what I said would happen months ago. The EU will not back down,why on earth would they?.
They hold all the cards ,we have NO leverage at all.
The EU is by far the largest trading block in the world,it will still easily be the largest even without us.
Currently we are one of the largest,most important and respected parts of that trading block, now we are going to throw that away. WHY ?

[Old_Geezer]

Lifting a finger may help avoid a "hard Brexit" but not doing so certainly encourages it; because the EU will have been given no signal to negotiate. If they don't the calls to just go will increase.

No one is being anyone's enemy. Even poor treatment from the EU will become history as things are moved towards an even keel after leaving.

[ToraToraTora]

gromit: "We should be wiping the floor with Barnier, but we have a cretin with no negoting experience, in charge. " - bang on we need Lord Farage out there.

[dannyk13]

All we need is for the PM to stick to her 'no deal is better than a poor deal'

[Gromit]

// we need Lord Farage out there. //

Like Davis, Farage is a politician not a negotiator. Ideally we should have someone from Industry fighting our corner, someone who knows what is needed. Politicians tend to be in it for the short term, and for their careers.
It is time for experts not poseurs.

[-Talbot-]

The powers that be are prepared to cut off fellow European noses to spite British faces. The EU.

EU above all, above all in the world

[Kromovaracun]

Yes, they're using their upper hand to advance their own interests. Exactly as predicted.

[HansUrbancka]

I wouldn't say that Barnier is doing a good job. It's more a case of the UK doing a bad one.

Barnier is acting like a silly schoolboy and is basically saying....."You can still be in the team and on the field, but you must not kick the ball".

It's time we kicked his balls.

Hans.

[Khandro]

kromo; //Because it's more effective to work within it and align our interests than to make an enemy of it, which is what we are doing. That's the reality of politics.//

I think you should go and ask David Cameron about the reality of EU politics, and how effective he found it trying to work within it.