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Ant Mcpartlin Arrested On Suspicion Of Drink-Driving.
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kvalidir - // Andy, being someone who has first hand knowledge of depression in family members myself please try not to be so patronising. //
Being someone who has direct experience of Depression, a complete breakdown, three months confined to a psychiatric hospital, a year off work, and daily anti-depressant mediation for nearly thirty years, I assure you that the very last thing I am about Depression, is patronising.
Being someone who has direct experience of Depression, a complete breakdown, three months confined to a psychiatric hospital, a year off work, and daily anti-depressant mediation for nearly thirty years, I assure you that the very last thing I am about Depression, is patronising.
Sorry Andy I disagree, the thing you are about an awful lot of things, (including depression), is patronising, as usual it's your way or the highway. Btw, it's not a competition you know to prove who has suffered the most, some people just don't bother to shout about it and try to beat others with it like a stick. Being depressed or having depression, however you wish to split hairs, is NOT an excuse to put other people's lives at risk by drink driving. It does the very many thousands of people suffering from depression a massive dis-service to use that as an excuse for frankly Ant McPartlin doing whatever he fancies and then plating the poor me card. As I have said before his addiction issues and mental health issues are cause for sympathy, but I do not accept that he chose to drink and drive because he suffers from depression. I find that insulting and ludicrous.
Addictive nature is sonpmething that IMO isn't controlled easily. People might do rehab... They might think they are 'cured' but it's a trait...personality disorder and not their fault. As in diabetes is not your fault, nor MS. it's something out of control of oneself....why can't people accept it?
I feel for everyone involved especially this accident and its repercussions.... I hope people recover of course....but please think about those who cannot handle addiction.... It's not their fault either.
I feel for everyone involved especially this accident and its repercussions.... I hope people recover of course....but please think about those who cannot handle addiction.... It's not their fault either.
As a complete ignoramus about these things, can someone please explain how people can become addicted to pain killers? Many years ago I had intermittent kidney pain and was given pain killers by my doctor to take "as and when". I was very careful only to use them when necessary and had no problems. Do doctors not monitor the amount of pain killers being asked for and become suspicious if requests become too frequent?
bhg... It's down to you as a person IMO. If you are OCD. And can control things then OK. However if you have an addictive nature...then there's not a lot of hope. You will go to how you feel as yourself... If u feel you can cope ...then ok. If not then unfortunately you will display signs of an addictive nature which is different to to those who are In control of things. Xx
kvalidir - // Sorry Andy I disagree, the thing you are about an awful lot of things, (including depression), is patronising, as usual it's your way or the highway. //
I guess we can agree to differ about that.
// Btw, it's not a competition you know to prove who has suffered the most, some people just don't bother to shout about it and try to beat others with it like a stick. //
Indeed it's not, but neither is it about making snotty pompous assumptions about people that you don't know except through a website.
I am far from the only regular AB'er with mental health issues, and like them, I mention it in context - which is what I did.
// Being depressed or having depression, however you wish to split hairs ... //
It is not splitting hairs! One of my major gripes about the condition is its misnomer. People think that having Depression is the same as being depressed, which, from your experience, you know is far from the case. If I had my way, it would be called something that resonates in the same way that Cancer does, but we have the name we have.
// ... is NOT an excuse to put other people's lives at risk by drink driving. It does the very many thousands of people suffering from depression a massive dis-service to use that as an excuse for frankly Ant McPartlin doing whatever he fancies and then plating the poor me card. //
I don't think it is an excuse, which is why I am not excusing him but it may be a reason, which is something else entirely. When I was in the hospital I behaved appallingly at times, things which I shudder to remember even now, and I would never excuse that behaviour, but I have explained it, and I do believe there is a big difference between the two.
// I have said before his addiction issues and mental health issues are cause for sympathy, but I do not accept that he chose to drink and drive because he suffers from depression. I find that insulting and ludicrous. //
My point is that there are times when you are not making 'choices', and self-destructive behaviour as absolutely a character trait of someone in the midst of a bad episode, which once again, you will know from your received experience.
I guess we can agree to differ about that.
// Btw, it's not a competition you know to prove who has suffered the most, some people just don't bother to shout about it and try to beat others with it like a stick. //
Indeed it's not, but neither is it about making snotty pompous assumptions about people that you don't know except through a website.
I am far from the only regular AB'er with mental health issues, and like them, I mention it in context - which is what I did.
// Being depressed or having depression, however you wish to split hairs ... //
It is not splitting hairs! One of my major gripes about the condition is its misnomer. People think that having Depression is the same as being depressed, which, from your experience, you know is far from the case. If I had my way, it would be called something that resonates in the same way that Cancer does, but we have the name we have.
// ... is NOT an excuse to put other people's lives at risk by drink driving. It does the very many thousands of people suffering from depression a massive dis-service to use that as an excuse for frankly Ant McPartlin doing whatever he fancies and then plating the poor me card. //
I don't think it is an excuse, which is why I am not excusing him but it may be a reason, which is something else entirely. When I was in the hospital I behaved appallingly at times, things which I shudder to remember even now, and I would never excuse that behaviour, but I have explained it, and I do believe there is a big difference between the two.
// I have said before his addiction issues and mental health issues are cause for sympathy, but I do not accept that he chose to drink and drive because he suffers from depression. I find that insulting and ludicrous. //
My point is that there are times when you are not making 'choices', and self-destructive behaviour as absolutely a character trait of someone in the midst of a bad episode, which once again, you will know from your received experience.
dunnitall - // As in diabetes is not your fault, nor MS. it's something out of control of oneself....why can't people accept it? //
Because people are still, even in 2018, frightened by the notion of mental illness. People shy away from discussing it, or trying to understand it.
Personally, as my posts on here confirm, I have absolutely no problem with anyone not understanding Depression or related conditions when they have not suffered personally, but I do become vexed when people without experience try to take the moral high ground.
It's not a competition, but in my experience, if you really don't know what you are talking about, you can do a lot worse than listen to experiences of those who do.
Because people are still, even in 2018, frightened by the notion of mental illness. People shy away from discussing it, or trying to understand it.
Personally, as my posts on here confirm, I have absolutely no problem with anyone not understanding Depression or related conditions when they have not suffered personally, but I do become vexed when people without experience try to take the moral high ground.
It's not a competition, but in my experience, if you really don't know what you are talking about, you can do a lot worse than listen to experiences of those who do.
Cloverjo - // Can't Dec do the job on his own? Are they contractually obliged to always work together? //
It may be that existing contracts require the two of them to work together. There is noting to stop Dec striking out on his own should be wish to, or should circumstances make that necessary, but the existing deals with the two of them are signed, and would be seriously expensive to get out of.
It may be that existing contracts require the two of them to work together. There is noting to stop Dec striking out on his own should be wish to, or should circumstances make that necessary, but the existing deals with the two of them are signed, and would be seriously expensive to get out of.
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