Heterosexual Couple Win Equal Rights, Now Change The Law Immediately And Stop Wasting Even More Public Money

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5891087/Heterosexual-couple-WIN-right-enter-civil-partnership-instead-getting-married.html

[mccfluff]

if and its a big if, i was ever to get into a long term relationship i don't agree with marriage but i would want a way to protect mine, theirs and our rights as a couple, if this affords me that, then great.

[Peter Pedant]

// .or are there disadvantages to not being officially married. //

yes lots of them - living in sin is NOT the same as being married - you should have learnt that at med school

the whole point of civil partnerships was to give equal rights to same sex couples as marriage without the religious lardy dah.
xc - no divorce - dissolution
no annulment for non consummation

no idea why couples want this - but as soon as they said it was unequal er the writing has been on the wall

[Sqad]

P.P...thanks but my question still hasn't been answered, why, if they don't want the palaver of the marriage ceremony etc but want the legal advantages of being married, don't they get married in a Registry Office.?

Please someone answer that simple question.

[sp1814]

mccfluff

I think there’s another issue. When the Marriage Equality Bill was going through Parliament, there was a campaign by a group called (I think) Keep Marriage Special. Their platform held that marriage was a sacred institution and should not be diluted.

The problem with extending CPs to heterosexual couples is that it would be the state effectively saying, “Hey - you don’t need to get married anymore...the thing that formed the basis of our cohesive society is now only one of two options!!!!”

The Government would no doubt get a HUGE pushback from the Church and other religious organisations.

In fact, it would be interesting to hear what the CofE has to say about this.

[Old_Geezer]

Don't many folk think they were glad to be here when things were reasonable but not sad to know life'll run out before one has to endure much more of the modern nonsense imposed everywhere ? I've faith that society is generally moving forwards to better things, but can see advancement isn't on all fronts at once; there's a load of dead ends and meandering in backwards directions for various aspects. Thing is that one misses what one has valued and now see being lost forever.

[sp1814]

Sqad

I know the answer to this...brace yourself.

The couple have “deep-rooted and genuine ideological objections to marriage”.

They claim that marriage (either civil or religious) is “historically heteronormative and patriarchal”.

There.

[sp1814]

O_G

I suppose it might be because I don’t know how the world will cope without me, that I fear my death.

[Bazile]

How many years have you chalked up so far , sqad ?

[Sqad]

sp.......LOL......LOL.....LOL....you are a class act.
Didn't understand one word of it.........that is why i feel that i have lived in the environment to which i was suited...simple and to the point.....LOL....;-)

[Old_Geezer]

"why, if they don't want the palaver of the marriage ceremony etc but want the legal advantages of being married, don't they get married in a Registry Office.?"

Because that's capitulation to society's insistence that you get married. Ceremony or no ceremony. It's still a ritual of sorts, just a civic one.

[Sqad]

Bazile......84years.

I have only one regret and that is I didn't work harder at Med School.
........probably due to my Autism ....;)..-;)...;-)

[mccfluff]

SP is using bigger words than i would - i don't want to get married as i don't see its relevant in today's society.

[Canary42]

/// I have only one regret and that is I didn't work harder at ... School. ///

Probably applies to a lot of us - that's not to say we'd not do the same again given a second chance ;-)

[Sqad]

Quite right Fluffy!

[kvalidir]

I like OG's idea that you can just nominate someone on a form, that's a fine notion.

[Bazile]

ok - you have chalked up your 3 score years and ten +
I'm sure Mrs Sqad wants you around for a while yet .

What level ( for want of a better word ) did you attain in the medical profession , before you retired ? - (You may not want to answer this , which is understandable )

[mccfluff]

a simple form to sign would suit me perfectly.

[Old_Geezer]

Walking on eggshells there !

[Sqad]

Bazile......no big deal, i don't mind answering.

Consultant Surgeon.

medicine has been my life and even during retirement i try and keep up with modern medicine.
i have had bypass surgery in Palma have a double chamber pacemaker, Type 2 diabetes, hypertension, hypothyroidism and "erectile dysfunction"
Apart from that i am quite fit.
Go to the Club most days, swim most days.
But still, take it from me, there are no pluses to getting old.

[New Judge]

"That’s exactly how I see them. To me, they’re pretend marriages as they don’t have exactly the same rights as traditional unions.

The whole pension thing is the stand out difference...and also because CPs are not, and never have been marriages."

What are those differences, sp? What is the pension thing? (I'm not challenging your assertions. I just don't know the answers. I thought, as far as rights go, the two were identical but I may be wrong).




"Because that's capitulation to society's insistence that you get married. Ceremony or no ceremony."

What, and a Civil Partnership (endorsed by society via its Parliament) is no such "capitulation"?