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Brexit Benefits
"EU migrant workers contribute £2,300 more per year to UK than average British citizen, study reveals"
In the light of this, I can't help thinking that the most benefit could be obtained if, instead of UK leaving EU, the brexiters were to leave the UK.
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In the light of this, I can't help thinking that the most benefit could be obtained if, instead of UK leaving EU, the brexiters were to leave the UK.
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I sincerely doubt that they do. For every migrant worker contributing there's a displaced native potential worker on welfare; so where is the net contribution ?
Why would Brexiteers who want to be in a sovereign nation called the UK, and are fighting to regain & retain it, want to leave when those who'd rather be told what to do by the EU stay where they seem unhappy, instead of going to an EU area where the natives prefer to be dictated to by foreigners ? I think you have it all the wrong way around.
Why would Brexiteers who want to be in a sovereign nation called the UK, and are fighting to regain & retain it, want to leave when those who'd rather be told what to do by the EU stay where they seem unhappy, instead of going to an EU area where the natives prefer to be dictated to by foreigners ? I think you have it all the wrong way around.
These figures on their own are useless. There are other reports showing that EU immigrants, as they tend to work in lower paid jobs, take much benefit. Also from just figures no account can be taken on stress of the infrastructure in particular housing which is in short supply.
There are lies damned lies and statistics.
There are lies damned lies and statistics.
Another misconception is that all leavers dont want any immigration.
This could not be further from the truth and is yet another Project Fear nonsense.
In general (and it has been seen on AB many times too) leavers jsut want controlled immigration. i.e. we dont want scroungers and we done want the EU's dross. What on earth is wrong with that?
This could not be further from the truth and is yet another Project Fear nonsense.
In general (and it has been seen on AB many times too) leavers jsut want controlled immigration. i.e. we dont want scroungers and we done want the EU's dross. What on earth is wrong with that?
OG, people leave the UK and we do need to ensure our workforce is properly staffed, we are at lowest unemployment for years depsit Project Fears projections.
So only net immigration IF we cannot fill the jobs from within the UK. Like most countries do. And temporary visa's for that until someone applies through a tough channel for leave to stay indefinitely. Even then if they commit a crime we should reserve the right to resind their citizenship.
So only net immigration IF we cannot fill the jobs from within the UK. Like most countries do. And temporary visa's for that until someone applies through a tough channel for leave to stay indefinitely. Even then if they commit a crime we should reserve the right to resind their citizenship.
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>>EU migrant workers contribute £2,300 more per year to UK than average British citizen
What a load of rubbish.
What is the "average" British citizen.
Does that include people who have retired, does it include school children, does it include disabled people or those with special needs?
Saw a program last night (one of these police reality shows).
Police in York kept hearing about a white van going round breaking in to charity containers in supermarkets (crow barring them open) and stealing the contents.
They eventually caught the van and made it pull in to a lay by.
Driver was Romanian (or similar)
The police opened the back of the van and it was chock full of charity bags (over 50 of them I would guess).
The van driver had taken out "cheap" insurance by giving his address as an old people's home in Hull (that way it looks like they have valid insurance on the police database but they choose an area where insurance is cheap and because they don't live there it is of course illegal).
When questioned by the police he said he lived there, then that a relative lived there (remember this in Hull) but they were now in York.
In the end the police decided to impound the van and have it taken away due to invalid insurance (and being unroadworthy).
This left the Romanian (and his mate) at the side of the road.
Policeman told them to walk to the nearest service station and phone a friend for a lift.
The man asked if the police could give him a lift to the service station and the police said no (the police were angry with them for stealing all the charity bags).
So the Romanian said to the policeman "I hunt you down and you be dead, in 2 or 3 days you will be dead".
THAT is the sort of crap we are getting in to this country by being part of the EU. How much police time has been spent hunting out these men and trying to take them to court.
And this is just one example of the sort of criminals who have flooded this country since the "Eastern European" countries joined the eU.
I voted leave and sometimes wonder if that was the right thing. Then I see something like that and realise it was the right decision (though only one part of why I voted leave).
What a load of rubbish.
What is the "average" British citizen.
Does that include people who have retired, does it include school children, does it include disabled people or those with special needs?
Saw a program last night (one of these police reality shows).
Police in York kept hearing about a white van going round breaking in to charity containers in supermarkets (crow barring them open) and stealing the contents.
They eventually caught the van and made it pull in to a lay by.
Driver was Romanian (or similar)
The police opened the back of the van and it was chock full of charity bags (over 50 of them I would guess).
The van driver had taken out "cheap" insurance by giving his address as an old people's home in Hull (that way it looks like they have valid insurance on the police database but they choose an area where insurance is cheap and because they don't live there it is of course illegal).
When questioned by the police he said he lived there, then that a relative lived there (remember this in Hull) but they were now in York.
In the end the police decided to impound the van and have it taken away due to invalid insurance (and being unroadworthy).
This left the Romanian (and his mate) at the side of the road.
Policeman told them to walk to the nearest service station and phone a friend for a lift.
The man asked if the police could give him a lift to the service station and the police said no (the police were angry with them for stealing all the charity bags).
So the Romanian said to the policeman "I hunt you down and you be dead, in 2 or 3 days you will be dead".
THAT is the sort of crap we are getting in to this country by being part of the EU. How much police time has been spent hunting out these men and trying to take them to court.
And this is just one example of the sort of criminals who have flooded this country since the "Eastern European" countries joined the eU.
I voted leave and sometimes wonder if that was the right thing. Then I see something like that and realise it was the right decision (though only one part of why I voted leave).
eu migrants on low pay = tax credits, housing benefit child care, schools, nhs...so they are not net contributors, i could go on about all the other non eu migrants on benefits from the dark continent popping out kids like a daily bowel movement, and not to mention the others
from south asia but more akin to the middle east religious wise.
from south asia but more akin to the middle east religious wise.
“Migrants from the EU contribute £2,300 more to the exchequer each year in net terms than the average adult, the analysis for the government has found.”
Really? I don’t quite know how the analysts "found” that figure for the government so, as our friends across the Atlantic annoyingly say, let’s “do the math”.
Just being simplistic for a moment, the income tax take for the UK is around £200bn and the National Insurance take around £150bn.There are around 48m adults living in the UK (I’ve included them all, whether working or not). This makes the average revenue in income tax and NI taken from each adult about around £7,300 (these figures are all very rough and ready but serve sufficiently to demonstrate my point).
If EU citizens are alleged to pay around £2,300 more than this average they pay, on average, £9,600 per annum each. To pay this amount they will have to be earning something in the region of £40,000 per annum.
Are we seriously to believe that all the EU migrants that come here to pick fruit and vegetables, clean hotel bedrooms and wait in bars and restaurants are earning an average of £800 a week? Many of them would be fortunate if they earned enough to pay £2,300 tax and NI in total (they would have to be earning £18k to do so) let alone £2,300 more than average. Added to that, some 27% of income tax revenue is taken from just 1% of the population and I doubt that EU migrants are over represented in that 1%.
I think the government depends on few people being able to do “sums” when they spread their propaganda. I can do sums and do not blithely accept everything I am fed so this "sounds like ***” to me as well.
Really? I don’t quite know how the analysts "found” that figure for the government so, as our friends across the Atlantic annoyingly say, let’s “do the math”.
Just being simplistic for a moment, the income tax take for the UK is around £200bn and the National Insurance take around £150bn.There are around 48m adults living in the UK (I’ve included them all, whether working or not). This makes the average revenue in income tax and NI taken from each adult about around £7,300 (these figures are all very rough and ready but serve sufficiently to demonstrate my point).
If EU citizens are alleged to pay around £2,300 more than this average they pay, on average, £9,600 per annum each. To pay this amount they will have to be earning something in the region of £40,000 per annum.
Are we seriously to believe that all the EU migrants that come here to pick fruit and vegetables, clean hotel bedrooms and wait in bars and restaurants are earning an average of £800 a week? Many of them would be fortunate if they earned enough to pay £2,300 tax and NI in total (they would have to be earning £18k to do so) let alone £2,300 more than average. Added to that, some 27% of income tax revenue is taken from just 1% of the population and I doubt that EU migrants are over represented in that 1%.
I think the government depends on few people being able to do “sums” when they spread their propaganda. I can do sums and do not blithely accept everything I am fed so this "sounds like ***” to me as well.
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