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Theresa May Possibly Resigning
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"She has said that EU nationals in the UK will still be welcome to stay." To be fair, AOG, I don't think even the most ardent of Brexiteers (and they don't come much more ardent than me!) wanted or expected wholesale expulsions of people from other EU countries who have legitimately settled here, whatever the terms of our departure. They came in good faith under...
15:28 Fri 21st Sep 2018
Like i keep saying, all smokescreens and mirrors....
you know exactly what will happen...it will go to the wire, and theyll come out of negotiations at 4 in the morning blah blah announcing a last minute deal has been done...same old k r a p...this has always been the plan..
now would have been the perfect time to tell the eussr where to shove it, so its obvious what her game is and always has been
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you know exactly what will happen...it will go to the wire, and theyll come out of negotiations at 4 in the morning blah blah announcing a last minute deal has been done...same old k r a p...this has always been the plan..
now would have been the perfect time to tell the eussr where to shove it, so its obvious what her game is and always has been
Tereason ReMAYner...
"She has said that EU nationals in the UK will still be welcome to stay."
To be fair, AOG, I don't think even the most ardent of Brexiteers (and they don't come much more ardent than me!) wanted or expected wholesale expulsions of people from other EU countries who have legitimately settled here, whatever the terms of our departure. They came in good faith under the rules prevailing at the time and it would be very bad form to expel them. I'll not go into the practicalities of rounding up 3m people and putting them on boats, trains and planes or the problems that would ensue by the employment vacancies they leave behind because it is never going to happen, however we leave.
I think the tone of Mrs May's speech that struck me most was that she has finally accepted that she is dealing with a bunch of shysters who have no interest whatever in seeing our departure go smoothly to the benefit of both the UK and the EU. It was obvious from June 24th 2016 that there would be no accommodation made for us. That's the EU's choice and I respect it; we're leaving the club the club is not leaving us. But at some point pragmatism needs to kick in and if that doesn't happen until after a hard Brexit then so be it. The EU needs to understand that trade between nations happens. It happens without one party having to accept the free movement of people from the other's territory, without massive wealth distribution schemes existing between them, without stifling other trade that one party may want to conduct and without one party having to accept the jurisdiction of a foreign court. They may do that one day, but I'm not holding my breath.
To be fair, AOG, I don't think even the most ardent of Brexiteers (and they don't come much more ardent than me!) wanted or expected wholesale expulsions of people from other EU countries who have legitimately settled here, whatever the terms of our departure. They came in good faith under the rules prevailing at the time and it would be very bad form to expel them. I'll not go into the practicalities of rounding up 3m people and putting them on boats, trains and planes or the problems that would ensue by the employment vacancies they leave behind because it is never going to happen, however we leave.
I think the tone of Mrs May's speech that struck me most was that she has finally accepted that she is dealing with a bunch of shysters who have no interest whatever in seeing our departure go smoothly to the benefit of both the UK and the EU. It was obvious from June 24th 2016 that there would be no accommodation made for us. That's the EU's choice and I respect it; we're leaving the club the club is not leaving us. But at some point pragmatism needs to kick in and if that doesn't happen until after a hard Brexit then so be it. The EU needs to understand that trade between nations happens. It happens without one party having to accept the free movement of people from the other's territory, without massive wealth distribution schemes existing between them, without stifling other trade that one party may want to conduct and without one party having to accept the jurisdiction of a foreign court. They may do that one day, but I'm not holding my breath.
I liked the tone of the speech which I sum up as "Not taking any more of this tish" and its repetition of "No deal is better than a bad deal".
Unfortunately she's shown a remarkable capacity to put up the tish quite uncomplainingly for more or less ever. And the Chequers agreement is a pretty good simulacrum of a bad deal. So, cynically, I think Tory Party Conference.
PS: I think she was right to reassure the EU nationals living here.
Unfortunately she's shown a remarkable capacity to put up the tish quite uncomplainingly for more or less ever. And the Chequers agreement is a pretty good simulacrum of a bad deal. So, cynically, I think Tory Party Conference.
PS: I think she was right to reassure the EU nationals living here.
I couldn't agree more, JD, but I fear that she will yet consider more concessions when she's cooled down. Today she said stuff I wanted to hear, but it could be a prologue to persuading us to stand by the appalling Chequers ideas. ('I'm standing up to them, back me!' idea.)
Personally, I'd have slapped Tusk's face - or shoved the cake into it!
Personally, I'd have slapped Tusk's face - or shoved the cake into it!
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