Police Officers Sacked For Telling Lies, Some Say They Should Have Been Imprisoned, What Do You Think?

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6304665/Three-lying-police-officers-claimed-suspect-left-paralysed-walked-police-van-sacked.html

[spathiphyllum]

My opinion = my opinion.

AOG ask'd what we think. I personally think there was a criminal offence. I would blame the police officers for the brain damage and cardiac arrest. If this was my child i'd be pushing charges for ABH. If these were not police officers they'd be in prison by now. This poor chaps life is ruined. Put the ones at fault in prison for a little bit. Thats how life works.

[spathiphyllum]

Jack the hat, lets put it this way..


I'm walking home from a night out, i see someone in a poor state on the floor. If i picked him up and dragged him to a van, then took him to a police station, that would be highly illegal, let alone if he had a broken neck. Now imagine if i told officials that he actually walked with me and was more than happy to come to the police station...

It's horrific.

[jackthehat]

No, it wouldn't be 'highly illegal'.
And the rest is nonsense, too.........

[dannyk13]

Groan, for the last time Spath no criminal offence was commited.

[spathiphyllum]

so it's legal to conspire to provide false accounts of the victim's condition following an incident? In the police force a minor conspiracy regarding the serious condition of a victim is legal?

[spathiphyllum]

and it's not illegal to breach the code of conduct for failing to carry out vital welfare checks?

[jackthehat]

It is not *illegal* in the respect that there is a Statute/Law against it for which you can be imprisoned. But it is an *offence* for which your employers can dismiss you.....which is what happened in this case.

[dannyk13]

Spath ,there was a conspiracy but not a criminalconspiracy.If an offence had been committed they would have been charged and put before a court.

[spathiphyllum]

well in my opinion (which is what AOG is asking!) i think any breach of a code of conduct or a failure to correctly asses welfare checks to cause a teenage to be a vegetable for the rest of his life is a criminal offence. They are in a position of power and should use that authority to protect and deal with a situation professionally. This is why i don't trust police. They should also legally not be allowed to lie What The Funicular is that about?? Of course people will believe a police officer over any regular citizen and this has only got to where it is because the boy is obviously paralysed so it's obvious there is more to it.

They have an obligation and they failed that obligation. Criminal in my opinion.

[spathiphyllum]

remember they physically and forcefully dragged him when he was in a life threatening condition. If that's legal then i'll just pop to the hospital, go to ICU and start pulling people around by the ankle see what part is illegal about that. Cus that' where this boy should have been... ICU.

[dannyk13]

Might be your opinion, but it was not the opinion of those that mattered.

[jackthehat]

Yes, spath....in your opinion, anything is or should be possible.....

But here, in this country, that's not how it works.

[spathiphyllum]

Well that's not what AOG is asking, he has not posted a law question, he has posted an opinion based question.

[jno]

it's not illegal to ignore an injured person. Still, I'd be wondering if dragging him across the road without checking on his health might not exacerbate any injury.

[grumpy01]

I think dismissal is probably the only option available.Also knowing their history they'll find it very difficult to obtain employment elsewhere.

[jackthehat]

Yes, he has, you are quite correct.

It's just that most people prefer to be in full possession of the relevant facts before they embark on a thread.....for fear of making an ill-informed chump of themselves.

As you were.....

[anotheoldgit]

I feel that the police were unaware of how serious the injuries were that this boy sustained by resisting arrest, but later after realising the outcome, lied to protect themselves.

Consequently their only crime was lying and there was nothing that they could have been done that would have altered the outcome of this tragic story.

[andy-hughes]

It is clear - as has been advised - that the officers are not guilty of a criminal offence, so dismissal is the appropriate response, and imprisonment was not an option.

I can fully appreciate the emotive reaction of spath, but the law does not operate on emotions, it operates on statutes, so imprisonment is not an option, however anyone may wish that it were.

[anotheoldgit]

It will be interesting to see retrocop's slant on this, after all unlike us he must have had some experience, on the front line in such similar circumstances.

[Old_Geezer]

They must have caused the injuries on route. By their own admission he was able to walk before he got into their car.