And Once We Welcomed Refugees

[bainbrig]

Shocking story of Islamophobia/bullying/anti-refugee bone-headedness, not yet mentioned in these columns.

A reminder in case you need one:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/28/schoolboy-to-be-charged-over-huddersfield-attack-on-refugee-15

All this Syrian family want is to live their lives in peace, all their children want is to go to school, in peace.

Once upon a time refugees were welcomed here.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Oh, oops. He was asking me about Muslims. And idiot me started talking about Nazis in the thirties. I dare say he will get my point, not get the point, or revert to his default mode.

That's sneer, innit?

[naomi24]

Zacs, //Naomi, the people in my link are thought to come from Iraq.//

Indeed – but they didn’t come from Iraq to the UK by boat did they. They came here from France. Therefore, since they were already in a safe country they are not refugees. They are economic migrants hoping for a better deal.

[dannyk13]

AOG, their reason for leaving Syria was not economic ergo they are not economic migrants.

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

I’ve already told you about your use of those words, ZM. Your continued use of them only serves to reinforce my point.

/// And it’s not an insult when it’s blindingly obvious. ///

I ask you again, please provide the proof.

[SparklyKid]

Avatar Image dannyk13


AOG, their reason for leaving Syria was not economic ergo they are not economic migrants.

14:07 Sat 01st Dec 2018



Read the above post, it explains it for you.

[dannyk13]

AOG, the proof is in the subject matter of your posts.

[Spicerack]

I'm totally mystified.

[Zacs-Master]

As Danny said. Your 600 odd posts on the subject, from which you’ve learned nothing are more than enough evidence.

[dannyk13]

SK at 14.09
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/economic-migrant
Note the words home country

[mushroom25]

//Therefore, since they were already in a safe country they are not refugees.//

not necessarily. the concept of "first country of asylum" is set out in article 26 - but it reads "A country can be considered to be a first country of asylum for a particular applicant for asylum if:" - the following conditions don't concern us, the important word is "can", which makes the provision permissive and not necessarily applicable in any given state.

[naomi24]

Refugees who flee for their lives and take up residence in a European country become residents of that country. If they subsequently decide to move to pastures new in the hope of a better deal - and since their lives are no longer in danger that can be the only reason they move on - they become economic migrants.

[Zacs-Master]

Article 26 of.......

[dannyk13]

Naomi, please see my post at 14.14

[vetuste_ennemi]

Ah, moment of light: a definition supplied by Danny of "economic migrant:

"a person who leaves their home country to live in another country with better working or living conditions".

Can anyone suggest why such a person should roll up to a country and be given entry to it?

What are the moral and practical issues here?

[anotheoldgit]

dannyk13
/// AOG, the proof is in the subject matter of your posts. ///

That is what is wrong in this country, one is allowed to enter threads against Brexit, Trump, Christianity, and even Royalty are not except, but if one dares to shine a bad light on ethnic minorities, (that is those who truly deserve it), then out come the Race Cards, Islamophobic Cards or Xenophobic cards, while the atrocities are allowed to carry on, without criticism.

Is it racist to highlight the Asian grooming gangs or the increasing black on black killings?

[mushroom25]

sorry, link forgotten. article 26 of this
http://www.asylumlawdatabase.eu/en/content/en-asylum-procedures-directive-directive-200585ec-1-december-2005

[dannyk13]

Also for Naomi
home country - Wiktionary
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/home_country
Noun. home country (plural home countries) The country in which a person was born and usually raised, regardless of the present country of residence and citizenship.

[Zacs-Master]

Mush....any idea what happens come March?

[Zacs-Master]

AOG, you’re defence of your anti racist accusations is risible. It’s racist in itself!