Can We Just Stop With This Nonsense.

[-Talbot-]

the attacker as in his 30s or 40s, with short, dark, curly hair, a tanned complexion and a short beard.

https://news.sky.com/story/girl-14-raped-outside-burnley-shopping-centre-on-new-years-day-11596703

a tanned complexion For Funks Sake

[Spicerack]

Well said, Dawg.

[Mamyalynne]

You may think you're in my head pal, you aren't - trust me.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//here are the usual suspects agonising about colour, brown and tanning
and the real subject is about rape and what to do about it
Ho hum it is a funny old world and AB is in full swing//

The use of the misleading term "sun-tanned" is to avoid providing further evidence of the striking (if you've got eyes, of course) correlation between certain classes of violent sexual crime and one section of the British community. (Or should I say a single one out of Britain's many communities?)

If the police were genuinely interested in rape and "what to do about it" then they would have noticed the obvious correlating factor and try to understand it. Is the correlation just random (and it may be)? Or is the correlation explained wholly, or in part, by cultural attitudes to women? And, if so, to women generally, or just those outside the cultural group?

The police have decided (under the influence of, and/or with the support of local councils, community cohesion officers, the mainstream media and even the"child protection" services) to ignore this first principle of detection. In certain cases I mean to say.

The Rotherham scandal (mong many more - most recently Telford)shows that the police were happy to have known rapist plying their trade for over ten years, putting the lie to whichever post asserted that they wanted these guys banged up.

AB in full swing.

Yes, indeed.

[Ellipsis]

> a tanned complexion

If the police were that worried about hurting people's feelings then they'd use this phrase every time, wouldn't they?

Which makes me think it's not the police's phrase but the victim's.

And yep, the police could have gone to CCTV, and that may have led to an identification, and that may have happened quite quickly ... or maybe not. In the meantime, the description would not have been out there and the police could have been said to be delaying. So it seems they can't win - they could be said to be delaying, leading the victim, jumping to conclusions or being too PC, depending on their chosen course of action.

[naomi24]

//If the police were that worried about hurting people's feelings then they'd use this phrase every time, wouldn't they?//

Or perhaps another bright idea to disguise the now predictable.

[Theland]

Can't hurt their feelings. Outcry!

[ummmm]

My nephew looks tanned. His paternal grandmother is Maltese and he's inherited her genes.

[Ellipsis]

> Or perhaps another bright idea to disguise the now predictable.

Got any real examples then? Of a concerted and obvious effort to avoid naming a race or religion when those details are known for sure, that is.

Because the entire premise of this question - that police are tiptoeing around calling an attack out for what it is - is malicious gossip; in itself, this behaviour is an attack on the police. There's no evidence of police behaving like that either generally or in this specific instance. And there's plenty of evidence, when police do know for sure that an attack was perpetrated by a Moslem or an Asian, for example, that they say so.

So why the attacks on the police and the spreading of malicious gossip that they're not doing their job properly? Where's the evidence?

[naomi24]

//Because the entire premise of this question - that police are tiptoeing around calling an attack out for what it is - is malicious gossip//

Yes ... a bit like calling Pakistani grooming gangs 'Asian'.

[Ellipsis]

And their reason for doing this would be ... ???

[naomi24]

To attempt to minimise the effect that truth may have on social cohesion.

[spathiphyllum]

not being certain they're all Pakistani.

[Ellipsis]

> To attempt to minimise the effect that truth may have on social cohesion

... by making their job harder to do and less likely to result in prosecutions?

[naomi24]

The police have been known to ignore their responsibilities…. and so we’re back to grooming gangs. Newspeak abounds.

[steg]

//not being certain they're all Pakistani.//
Aye, I’m sure one of the Rochdale dudes was from Afghanistan

[Ellipsis]

> The police have been known to ignore their responsibilities….

OK, so this is the premise of this thread. The police are ignoring their responsibilities - making their job harder to do and less likely to result in prosecution - by deliberately using language that is designed to obfuscate. Is that what you really think?

[naomi24]

Yes.

[Ellipsis]

What would be the grand underlying plan behind this deliberate non-bringing of certain religious or racial groups to justice? Social cohesion, or something bigger?

[naomi24]

Social cohesion.

[spathiphyllum]

what a conspiracy