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Bethnal Green Girl
How many are screaming at the screen right now? She made her bed let her lie in it. Why should she be allowed back here?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.So, we let her back in and her baby is delivered safely, cared for and educated by the state. Meantime, mum and grandpappy are filling child's head full of hatred for western civilisation, thereby nurturing a future terrorist. Yeah, right. As has already been said, let her stew in her own mess. She should never be allowed to set foot on English soil ever again.
I am not aware of any credible evidence that she ever plotted against the UK, and her crime here seems to be that she left without permission, depriving us of our right to provide for her or her children.
She has committed an offence in Syria by providing succour to violent dissidents. We still maintain relations with the despicable Al-Assad regime, so are obliged to accept the return of our citizen.
The Victoria Derbyshire show on BBC News earlier interviewed a former City banker who had gone to Syria to fight against Da'esh. He was treated with respect, despite his intent to kill those who he disliked without any legitimate mandate.
Back to false dichotomies, but if asked whether I would rather let a former child sex-slave or a willing murderer into the UK, I would be the bleeding heart liberal who chose the former.
She has committed an offence in Syria by providing succour to violent dissidents. We still maintain relations with the despicable Al-Assad regime, so are obliged to accept the return of our citizen.
The Victoria Derbyshire show on BBC News earlier interviewed a former City banker who had gone to Syria to fight against Da'esh. He was treated with respect, despite his intent to kill those who he disliked without any legitimate mandate.
Back to false dichotomies, but if asked whether I would rather let a former child sex-slave or a willing murderer into the UK, I would be the bleeding heart liberal who chose the former.
Should she be allowed back? Definitely not! She seems to be a cold calculating person who deserted her country of birth to go on a whim to join a well-known terrorist group . Now that group looks like being defeated; but the terrorists won't all be standing there waiting to be killed off. They will have dispersed already and be heading to all corners of the world.How do we know that she isn't one of them.?Now she wants to come back to her home comforts in the UK. Some people have said she should be allowed to return but be put under close supervision. What a laugh! We can't monitor and follow all the Isis supporters that have already come back over the last few years. There are probably hundreds mingling amongst us .Who knows what they are plotting and scheming. None of them should have been allowed back . But as I said previously the UK doesn't have the resources to monitor them all. Leave her and her child where they are.
On Radio 4 this morning, some Gov spokesman was saying that she'd have to find her way to the UK Embassy in Syria to ask for help ... nobody is going to put their lives at risk going out looking for her. If she did manage to present herself at the Embassy (or whatever we have there), the normal diplomatic wheels would kick in - which would probably result in her repatriation unless Syria wanted to keep her to charge her for something. But for now nothing will happen.
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talbot......her allegiance to her country of birth........the UK.
That is once and if she would be allowed to return she may due it again.
Allegiance......country of birth.
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allegiance
loyalty or commitment to a superior or to a group or cause.
I don't think she was brought up to have any allegiance to this country. The higher 'group or cause' is Islam.
talbot......her allegiance to her country of birth........the UK.
That is once and if she would be allowed to return she may due it again.
Allegiance......country of birth.
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allegiance
loyalty or commitment to a superior or to a group or cause.
I don't think she was brought up to have any allegiance to this country. The higher 'group or cause' is Islam.
There are some interesting points raised here regarding her age.
On one hand you could argue that she was only 15 and thus didn't know what she was doing, yet the age of full criminal responsibility is 14, the age of consent or to join the army or get married is 16 and the age to vote is currently 18.
This is an absolute mess, and some people who would consider people not mature enough to vote at 16 are calling for her to be lynched for decisions made at 15, and some who feel a 15 year old is a child and couldn't for example consent to sex, think she is none the less fully criminally responsible being over 14.
I think it would make sense to set everything at either 14 or 16 to avoid nasty black holes in culpability etc that our current system leaves.
I personally think most teenagers are too babied, and know full well what they are about well below 16, so I would be very happy to leave her there.
On one hand you could argue that she was only 15 and thus didn't know what she was doing, yet the age of full criminal responsibility is 14, the age of consent or to join the army or get married is 16 and the age to vote is currently 18.
This is an absolute mess, and some people who would consider people not mature enough to vote at 16 are calling for her to be lynched for decisions made at 15, and some who feel a 15 year old is a child and couldn't for example consent to sex, think she is none the less fully criminally responsible being over 14.
I think it would make sense to set everything at either 14 or 16 to avoid nasty black holes in culpability etc that our current system leaves.
I personally think most teenagers are too babied, and know full well what they are about well below 16, so I would be very happy to leave her there.