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People's Vote?
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lots of chatter on here (and elsewhere) for a "people's vote" - a second referendum, it's also been described as. well now Mr Corbyn is looking to get behind the campaign:-
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with both parties polarised by Brexit, what chance of the "people's vote" receiving a parliamentary majority? and, more importantly, what would the question be - a simple yes/no choice, or more options to choose from?
ignore, for now, the charge that a second vote cold be "undemocratic".....
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with both parties polarised by Brexit, what chance of the "people's vote" receiving a parliamentary majority? and, more importantly, what would the question be - a simple yes/no choice, or more options to choose from?
ignore, for now, the charge that a second vote cold be "undemocratic".....
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It's been a long time coming. However we aren't there yet (by all of which I mean Corbyn supporting one, not it actually happening).
Labour's support is conditional on the Labour amendment getting through on Wednesday, although I think that seems unlikely to succeed.
I think that if the May deal is rejected and No Deal is off the agenda (neither of which scenarios can be predicted at the moment) then there's probably little other option and in that case I think parliament would vote for it. It wouldn't need a huge number of Tory MPs backing it, assuming Labour finally got behind it.
The most likely scenario leading to a people's vote is probably if the Kyle amendment gets passed: that promises to back the PM's deal subject to it being put to a referendum.
As for the options, that is very tricky: there is no agreement on what the options should be: probably 2 or 3 out of "deal/no deal/remain.
I have to say I think it would be very unlikely that "no deal AND deal" would be on there, because you'd have two Brexit options, splitting the Brexit vote: can you imagine the fuss if "remain" was the most popular option but "deal/no deal" combined outpolled it.
It would have to be two options really, and it doesn't, it seems to me, make sense to have people voting on a negative: there would have to be some sort of deal to vote for. So: "deal v remain"
"ignore, for now, the charge that a second vote cold be "undemocratic"....."
Good luck with that :-)
Labour's support is conditional on the Labour amendment getting through on Wednesday, although I think that seems unlikely to succeed.
I think that if the May deal is rejected and No Deal is off the agenda (neither of which scenarios can be predicted at the moment) then there's probably little other option and in that case I think parliament would vote for it. It wouldn't need a huge number of Tory MPs backing it, assuming Labour finally got behind it.
The most likely scenario leading to a people's vote is probably if the Kyle amendment gets passed: that promises to back the PM's deal subject to it being put to a referendum.
As for the options, that is very tricky: there is no agreement on what the options should be: probably 2 or 3 out of "deal/no deal/remain.
I have to say I think it would be very unlikely that "no deal AND deal" would be on there, because you'd have two Brexit options, splitting the Brexit vote: can you imagine the fuss if "remain" was the most popular option but "deal/no deal" combined outpolled it.
It would have to be two options really, and it doesn't, it seems to me, make sense to have people voting on a negative: there would have to be some sort of deal to vote for. So: "deal v remain"
"ignore, for now, the charge that a second vote cold be "undemocratic"....."
Good luck with that :-)
Lol; OG’s going to be setting the question :-)
Seriously there would be a deal of some sort to vote on: might not be May’s deal, who knows. Anything else would be close to a rerun of the first one and no one wants that do they? ;-)
I honestly don’t know how likely another referendum is and my prediction of the options is only a best guess.
Seriously there would be a deal of some sort to vote on: might not be May’s deal, who knows. Anything else would be close to a rerun of the first one and no one wants that do they? ;-)
I honestly don’t know how likely another referendum is and my prediction of the options is only a best guess.
Best of three, vocal remainers get to bray, catcall and trumpet over more reasonable voices for a couple of years and the whole thing dies of apathy, old age and an outbreak of common sense before the third one can be organised.
A cross spectrum delegation then marches on Brussels and upends the troughs sending the self regarding scampering for the hills and we all pop flowers in the barrels of all and any guns.
A cross spectrum delegation then marches on Brussels and upends the troughs sending the self regarding scampering for the hills and we all pop flowers in the barrels of all and any guns.
Apparently 87% of people who achieved voting age since 2016 would vote to remain.
As for “best of three” well why not, although the second one in all likelihood would be different to the first so it wouldn’t really be best of three.
I wonder how you’d word the question in a referendum where there was a deal AND a no deal option?
Lots of issues to be resolved should it come to it.
As for “best of three” well why not, although the second one in all likelihood would be different to the first so it wouldn’t really be best of three.
I wonder how you’d word the question in a referendum where there was a deal AND a no deal option?
Lots of issues to be resolved should it come to it.
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