Is No Deal Now Dead?

[ichkeria]

Or is it more can-kicking?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47373996

[Zacs-Master]

Why two weeks time for the vote? Why not in a few days time?

[ichkeria]

The date of March 12 had already been set: much to the frustration of many.
It does mean we may now have European elections here! But by saying “end of June and no further” she’s still not ruling out the cliff edge. In fact she even used those very words. So can kicking it looks like. But her can looks a bit threadbare now.
Very powerful stuff from Jess Philips in the House: why oh why are people like that never party leaders.

[naomi24]

Hope not.

[jim360]

Only for the time being, and possibly not even then. But at least remembering that it's a question MPs should be asked is a concession worth cheering.

[Zacs-Master]

"Let me be clear, I do not want to see Article 50 extended,"

But a vote on 12th, 13th and 14th of March is ok? Don't those two seem contradictory?

I'm all for a bit of Brinksmanship but this is getting daft.

[grumpy01]

Nothing can be ruled in or out at the moment.If there is an extension of Article 50 into May then we will have European elections to contend with.I suspect Nigel Farage and his mates won’t object to enjoying a bit more largesse from the European gravy train.

[TonyV]

I can see article 50 being extended by more than a few months to possibly years, can't see Mays no deal being accepted, and EU they have her over a barrel and they can just sit back and watch us wash out dirty laundry in public.

[weecalf]

We are staying .Well next question .

[grumpy01]

If we do stay Weecalf,I will never be seen in a polling station again.

[douglas9401]

Yup, we are. Just a matter of politicians growing a collective pair.

[weecalf]

Let’s see how many put their name forward for European elections .If we don’t leave ,never let a good wage get in front of what’s best for Britain . Tell you the taxi drivers would have had this sorted 18 months ago if my advice had been taken .

[ichkeria]

The PM again spelled out the thee options: Leave with her deal, leave with no deal, or revoke (not postpone) Article 50. That was plainly a message to the Brexit MPs who won’t back her deal. I think although she has not explicitly ruled out ever leaving without a deal, effectively now once MPs can say they don’t want it in March it would be bizarre not to be able to rule it out later. And, somewhat to my surprise, Labour has ruled out No Deal as a referendum option. We are possibly down to two then.

[gulliver1]

Looks like Brexit is going to be delayed Then , Whoo Woo , Bring it on,

[TonyV]

Well in her words, just read between the lines.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47373996

[ToraToraTora]

No deal cannot simply be "ruled out" in order to aboid the defaut you have to create a way of not defaulting to the status quo. I've seen noting of the sort. Even if project Thwart continues they'll have to repeal the leave date.

[New Judge]

Which they will, 3Ts.

I said before Christmas that "No Deal" was not a remote possibility because our MPs have no confidence in either the country or its electorate.

[gulliver1]

" Things can only get Better" it will be no Brexit next , after kicking no deal into the long grass PMSL .

[ichkeria]

That was true Tora as long as there was a deadline set in stone. But that looks increasingly less the case now. Even if we get a new “deadline” of say 28 June it would be hard to argue that delaying that made any more sense. If you think No Deal is terrible at the end of March it’ll still be terrible at the end of June. In a normal situation the agreement itself would set the date.
But by being forced to back down the PM has set a precedent. “Project thwart” is actually a combined effort by both sides to stop what they see as a bad outcome

[gulliver1]

" Beware the Ides of March"

[ichkeria]

You’re like a mouse popping out from the skirting board gulliver