'tommy Robinson' "not Well Known As He Thinks He Is ... " Shock-Horror!!!!

[andy-hughes]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6814371/Tommy-Robinson-LOSES-court-case-against-police.html?mrn_rm=rta-fallback


I am saying nothing at this stage - I think the report, and the result of the case, says it all.

[Zacs-Master]

No they don’t. Terrible business that someone with a criminal record, right wing past, named after a football hooligan can’t go about their daily business unhindered.

[naomi24]

Worse than terrible, zacs. It's shameful.

[retrocop]

//I don’t think the events surrounding Lennon amount to anything approaching a police state.//

How much of the link I provided did you watch? The actions of that Police Officer in that situation showed he was totally out of his depth and neither knew what he was doing or why he was doing it. To reply to a perfectly legitimate question as to why TR was being ejected from the pub the answer should not of been," You will have to take it up with the boss" (Boss not being present of course)
That is tantamount to the officer saying,"Right or wrong my Town"
and , "I am only following orders"

[Zacs-Master]

Mmm.

[spathiphyllum]

He wants the publicity dont feel bad for him he brings it on himself

[Zacs-Master]

The actions of one police officer do not amount to anything approaching a police state.

[naomi24]

spath, he didn't bring this on himself. This sort of behaviour from the police and the courts should worry us all Why it doesn't is a mystery to me. Today him. Who tomorrow?

[anotheoldgit]

/// She said Mr Yaxley-Lennon believed he was "discriminated against on the grounds of being Tommy Robinson and his beliefs". ///

You can't use that excuse Tommy, that type of thing is only reserved for certain protected groups.

[retrocop]

//He wants the publicity dont feel bad for him he brings it on himself//

He didn't appear to bring this fiasco on himself. In fact due to the inept actions at the time he has been given all the oxygen people suggest he shouldn't get on a plate by police.

[Zacs-Master]

Stop scaremongering, N. The actions of the police against Lennon do not indicate a collapse of the justice system or a threat to anyone else. Especially those who don’t have ‘form’ or haven’t been the subject of contempt of court proceedings, don’t have a far right past or are known agent provocateurs.

[naomi24]

No scaremongering zacs. If anything is scary it's the blatant dishonesty of our police and courts.

[retrocop]

//The actions of one police officer do not amount to anything approaching a police state.//

That was not the actions of a rogue police officer acting alone. That was set up probably in advance by the CC of Cambridgeshire knowing that TR was likely to attend an away Luton match. The police appeared to have gone out looking for him as they certainly were not summonsed to attend due to any Public disorder.

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master
/// Terrible business that someone with a criminal record, right wing past, named after a football hooligan can’t go about their daily business unhindered. ///

And why not, when there are killers, rapists and known potential terrorists walking our streets free from persecution.

Tommy's only crime is that he has the courage to voice his opinions on the rise of Islam in this country.

[Zacs-Master]

Saying ‘who tomorrow’ is scaremongering. If you (or retrocop) can’t see the reasoning behind the Polices’ actions, then you’re either deluded or misguided. Or possibly both.

[Zacs-Master]

AOG, Lennon’s crimes are many and recorded. Have a look. Saying because there are rapists walking around is a really poor argument in defence of him.

[Barmaid]

The question was raised as to why the police might have offered to settle. TR was claiming damages from the police for harrassment, discrimination and a breach of his human rights. I imagine the police will have made an offer to settle on a commercial basis and a "no liability" basis because they knew that a three day trial would cost quite a lot of money.

There is also a tactical reason for making an offer to settle. If you make an offer that the other side fails to accept and then at trial you do better than the offer that you have made, this is reflected in how costs are awarded. The Judge does not know what offers have been made until after the case is finished.

I am not sure how this turns us into a police state. This is not about whether it was right or wrong. It is about whether the police harrassed him, discriminated against him on the basis of his beliefs or infringed his human right of a right to family life.

[retrocop]

Zacs
There are at least two ABers who have criminal records and have served prison time that I know of. Do you think it acceptable that they are marched out of town on a day trip with their kids not because what they are doing but what they may do? How do you think the judge handled the Canadian journalist in the court hearing btw?

[Togo]

Has anyone bothered to look at the section 34/35 order that plod was carrying out? It goes right to the top. A "tip off" from a local drunk my foot.(or something like that)
""A police officer of at least the rank of inspector may authorise the use in a specified locality, during a specified period of not more than 48 hours, of the powers given by section 35.""

[Zacs-Master]

Let’s keep it real, eh retro. Any idea of the statistical probability of that happening?

[retrocop]

Lets keep it real eh Zacs. What's the probability of you having watched that clip I provided before you comment further? You didn't answer what you thought of the judge's handling of the Canadian journalist I note.