Was The Home Office Correct To Use Extracts From The Bible In This Case?

[agchristie]

Correct justification in decision making or not?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6832721/Home-Office-letter-quotes-bible-verses-prove-Christianity-NOT-religion-peace.html

[agchristie]

//Stephen Evans, chief executive of the National Secular Society told the Independent it was 'wholly inappropriate' for the Home Office to use 'theological justifications for refusing asylum applications'.//

[dannyk13]

Totally wrong.

[naomi24]

If similar criteria were employed in assessing claims by the followers of Islam none of them would be granted asylum - ever.

[ludwig]

What they're saying seems to be correct. They're quoting from the book that represents the religion.

[agchristie]

It seems from the link that this sort of decision making is not a one-off.

Are personal viewpoints hindering HO policy I wonder?

[agchristie]

Ludwig //What they're saying seems to be correct//

But can it be justified to use as reasons for denying a claim which goes against HO policy?

[anotheoldgit]

ludwig

/// What they're saying seems to be correct. They're quoting from the book that represents the religion. ///

Would they dare to quote in such a derogatory way regarding the Koran?

[naomi24]

Ludwig, //What they're saying seems to be correct. They're quoting from the book that represents the religion. //

What they're saying is correct but if they're going to employ that criteria then they must apply it to all asylum seekers, regardless of religion.

[douglas9401]

Think y'all been took.

[naomi24]

Why douglas?

[agchristie]

Another interesting link:-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36430880

[douglas9401]

Nobody at the Home Office ever worked that hard.

[Old_Geezer]

Can't be bothered to read it all but Christianity started in violent times and has mellowed more than some religions, as can be seen by the number of terrorist atrocities that have roots in religion that are committed on the planet per year. Quoting old passages merely show what things used to be like. Deeds and actions today show what things are now.

[ludwig]

//What they're saying is correct but if they're going to employ that criteria then they must apply it to all asylum seekers, regardless of religion. //

Agreed, but as far as I know, no-one else is citing the fact that their religion is one of peace as a specific reason to be granted asylum.

I wouldn't be surprised if this was fake news, as Douglas suggests. I tend not to believe anything from a single uncorroborated source, especially if that source is the Mail.

[agchristie]

Ludwig //I wouldn't be surprised if this was fake news//

Have you read the other link I provided from 2016?

It would appear that the way claims were being handled then caused questions to be asked of the criteria being used.

[ludwig]

..but actually, in answer to the question, I don't think they're right to use extracts from the bible or any other religious tome as part of their decision making process.

It's a serious business, and religion scribblings from 2000+ years ago shouldn't really play any part in it.

If it's true, it's a bizarre thing to do, whether the point they're making is factually correct or not. Fine for debating on Answerbank, but not for the Govt to make decisions about people's lives.

[ludwig]

// Have you read the other link I provided from 2016? //

I hadn't, but I will do now.

[Kromovaracun]

Unfortunately, this is part of a wider pattern in the home office using highly arbitrary reasons to prevent people from coming to the country when there is no other obvious reason to deny them.

[Peter Pedant]

// If similar criteria were used by the followers of Islam none of them would be granted asylum - ever.//

no Nigh you narty girl ! You have read the Koran and so you should KNOW that ahl - al kitab ( followers of the Book - bible in this case ) are treated differently to the heretics ( kufr)

but hey anything goes - this is AB

anyone who wishes to watch qatari propaganda - netflix "the crows" - yazdi women and children ( kufr ) get buried alive at the beginning of episode 2

[naomi24]

//I don't think they're right to use extracts from the bible or any other religious tome as part of their decision making process. //

I agree.