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Old_Geezer | 08:18 Wed 28th Aug 2019 | News
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Just a thought ,isn't this getting a little like how Hitler took Control .
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No. Hitler wasn't trying to stop parliament from trashing democracy, so no similarity at all really.
Oh I see so Johnson trashing democracy in order to stop Parliament trashing democracy is okay? You could not make this up if you tried.
Boris says when he was a little boy ,
which he still is , he always wanted to be the King.
King Hell what a Dip Stick he is.
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He isn't trashing democracy at all, in any form whatsoever. He is ensuring it is respected and delivering Brexit. Newspeak won't work here: but you're mistaken, turns out you did make it up. Well ok you are right, I couldn't make it up if I tried, but then, I don't try.
Of course he is, but it's not over yet, I cannot imagine why you assume that it is.
Well I'm buying shares in companies specialising in brown shirts, long shiny boots, barbed wire and ID documents.
ah, our autocrats are more subtle these days, douglas. Funny hair is about all they have in common.
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How is he ? There's no, "of course", about it. Parliament is not delivering that which the public democratically demanded, so no longer have any right to claim a connection with democracy, only with their own desires. A strong leader, in support of democracy, tries to ensure they can't ruin delivery. An action in support of democracy, no action thrashing it; unlike many other MPs who now bellyache about it being made difficult to betray the public.
'' Parliament is not delivering that which the public democratically demanded, so no longer have any right to claim a connection with democracy, only with their own desires.''

Yep, and if the only way is to get the elected lot to shut up and honour the result, is to suspend, yep, go for it.

That way, on 1st November, we have left the EU and businesses can stop whinging about uncertainty.
Boris and " His Final Solution " Be careful what you wish for , it could easily Backfire
The same old arguments recurring again and again from those who know all about ‘trashing democracy’. The fact is had parliament delivered on the result of the democratic referendum, as it should have done, the country would have been spared three years of lip-dragging, lies, and wrangling. It has to stop.
Parliament has a right, and indeed a responsibility, to scrutinise and shape *how* the decision is implemented. This decision deliberately interferes with that process.
Given the current motley crew we know now the decision will be implemented. To the delight of Remainers it will drag on forever more, never to be implemented.
His offhand, dismissive public schoolboy antics remind me of a previous prime minister.
Who was that in charge before Mrs May?
Remainers don't want this to drag on any more than you do. They have a radically different idea of how to end it, of course, but a situation where it drags on and on is also stupid. The problem comes because in a country that remains deeply split no compromise is possible: Brexit supporters want their prize *now*, at any cost; Remain supporters want to deny them any form of their prize.

You find a way out of this mess. But if either side wins the other will be justifiably furious, and it will still not end.
//Boris and " His Final Solution " Be careful what you wish for , it could easily Backfire//

I don't normally respond to your nonsense, gulliver, but this time I can't resist. There is nothing unusual in suspending or "proroguing" Parliament. It usually happens once a year in October. It is suspended until a new Queen's Speech is presented in early November and all bills and other business that is not completed is effectively abandoned. What's unusual with this Parliamentary session is that it has lasted more than 26 months, since June 2017 and it is long overdue for termination. Mr Johnson has taken the opportunity to end the session so as to present his new programme to the House. He has a duty to deliver Brexit and cannot do so whilst continually obstructed by recalcitrant MPs who have no intention of doing so.

Talk of "brown shirts" and Hitler are utter nonsense. It is precisely because Parliament has shown itself unable to properly govern the country in the interests of the electorate that it has become necessary and in fact the House would have closed for three weeks anyway for their Jolly Boys' Outings (aka "conferences").
//The problem comes because in a country that remains deeply split no compromise is possible//

The problem comes because the losers refuse to acknowledge that they lost. They lost. No compromise required.
//The problem comes because the losers refuse to acknowledge that they lost. They lost. No compromise required.//

Indeed. I have asked constantly in the last couple of years why any compromise is necessary. I ask because it has never been explained how much "compromise" would have ensued had the vote been 52:48 to Remain.

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