Prorogation Ruled To Be Unlawful

[THECORBYLOON]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49810261

What now for Boris?

[retrocop]

I think Thomas Crook was behind the Brexit strategy from the first ag
Can't get it off the ground. :-(

[THELOONYCORBYN]

"The wishes of the 16 million are hardly irrelevant. They are part of the country too, part of its future, and get an equal say in shaping it."

In the context of the referendum and all it entails until the vote is carried through hey are irrelevant, they had an equal say, they voted to stay but unfortunately for them over 1million more voted to leave...sooo....
They can still have a say in the countrys future in any subsequent votes held for whatever reason, GE, LE etc etc ...some they will lose and some they may win...but this one they roundly lost but still refuse to accept that decision...like I said in an earlier post, saboteurs and traitors

[Mozz71]

TLC, hypothetically, if the vote had gone the other way, Leavers would also be fighting tooth and nail for what they believed in. I recall Nige mentioning taking up arms to tight for the cause (all bull and bluster I'm sure, but he still said it)

[jim360]

Democracies allow everybody to have a say in the country's future all the time. Arguing that some group should sit on the sidelines until it is done is antidemocratic.

Returning to my first post, meanwhile, all 11 judges agreed with this verdict. Two of those judges, Lords Carnwath and Reed, also sat on the 2016 case about the power to notify under Article 50 (as did a few others), and on that occasion they sided *with* the government. That is significant. Arguing that this is somehow a pro-EU decision is manifestly nonsense based on that alone.

[Ellipsis]

All that's going to happen is that Parliament will be recalled, and soon prorogued again, this time for a shorter period that won't be able to be challenged, finishing roughly when the unlawful prorogation would have finished anyway. Nice to see where your taxes are being spent.

The true impact of this won't be on Brexit - it hardly makes a difference - but will come more from the fact that the PM asked the monarch to do something unlawful, and she complied.

[shoota]

I'm sure Boris would have sought legal advice before approaching HM. The 'fault' lies with them.

[drmorgans]

Maybe but it was Johnson who wanted to prorogue parliament and asked the Queen to do it. As they say, the buck stops with him.

[Old_Geezer]

What Farage said is hardly relevant. He would, of course, fight on to change folk's minds. But most leavers seem to believe in democracy and would let it lie until sufficient time had elapsed that it was obvious an erroneous decision to have remained, and then request a further referendum. Look how long leavers took to get the recent one after the first.

As for Boris, unsure one would want a single word description, but, "Hero of the nation, and defender of democracy", fits well. Perhaps now others can find a suitable description for a parliament determined to deny democracy and the nation's people ?

[aelmpvw]

so boris may be hounded out of office, at least we have someone more capable waiting in the wings ... oh, hang on a minute

[Old_Geezer]

The fault doesn't lie with anyone who's interpretation of the law gave them the opinion that proroguing was unlawful. IMO it's with those who found a loophole to claim it was on this occasion and create an almighty bad precedent. The sooner government can clarify the law there, the better.

[Ellipsis]

The ruling is surprisingly easy to read, and very clear.

[Old_Geezer]

Try again.

The fault doesn't lie with anyone who's interpretation of the law gave them the opinion that proroguing was lawful. IMO it's with those who found a loophole to claim it wasunlawful on this occasion and created an almighty bad precedent. The sooner government can clarify the law there, the better.

[Old_Geezer]

The fault doesn't lie with anyone who's interpretation of the law gave them the opinion that proroguing was lawful. IMO it's with those who found a loophole to claim it was unlawful on this occasion and created an almighty bad precedent. The sooner government can clarify the law there, the better.

[dannyk13]

Boris has stated that he thinks the verdict was wrong , and reminds that "some people wish to frustrate Brexit". Still think it will be interesting to see what his next move will be.

[drmorgans]

The ruling was about the precedent being set of having a long prorogation that could not be justified. How would you react if a future government decided to shut down parliament for 3 months or a year to avoid scrutiny?

[Old_Geezer]

Fine, they're the government. But they will answer for whatever they do if ever allowed to hold a GE. Which is another thing !

[gulliver1]

Boris says he does not agree wih the verdict.
What he is thinking is, how dare you find me guilty , don't you know who I am.

[woofgang]

If I was Boris, I would be saying that when I made my request to the Queen, from the advice I received, I believed that the request was lawful. It has now been tested in court and adjudged to be unlawful.

[gulliver1]

Not having knowledge of the law is not recognised by the opposition.