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More Tory Lies
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//Maybe it is best you left the thread if you can't discuss maturely.//
So let’s discuss it maturely, then.
//It is up to parliament how many hours class as "employed" not the ONS.//
No it isn’t.
//Who decides how many hour per time frame is classed as "employed"? Is it the government or the Office for National Statistics?//
It’s neither. From the very report being discussed (published in the Guardian, remember, not an organ well known for its support of the "lying" Tories):
//The definition of at least one hour of paid work constituting employment is neither new nor unusual. It is the international standard adopted in 1982 by the International Labour Organisation, and it reflected standard practice. So there’s no rigging of the figures by the government to count more people as employed than in the past. The data is what the data was.//
So not only has it been standard practice in the UK for almost forty years (during which time, if I recall correctly, there were some thirteen years of Labour government - ample time for them to challenge and change the definition) but it is also standard practice internationally.
I quite agree that classing someone as “employed” when they’re working as little as one hour a week is not very helpful (though quite why somebody would bother to get out of bed to do one hour’s work a week is a little unclear). But this question is headed “More Tory Lies”. And it clearly isn’t.
So since we’re talking about “maturity” it pays to be mature enough to do a little research before banging out “More Tory Lies” and the nonsense which followed it. Is that mature enough for you?
So let’s discuss it maturely, then.
//It is up to parliament how many hours class as "employed" not the ONS.//
No it isn’t.
//Who decides how many hour per time frame is classed as "employed"? Is it the government or the Office for National Statistics?//
It’s neither. From the very report being discussed (published in the Guardian, remember, not an organ well known for its support of the "lying" Tories):
//The definition of at least one hour of paid work constituting employment is neither new nor unusual. It is the international standard adopted in 1982 by the International Labour Organisation, and it reflected standard practice. So there’s no rigging of the figures by the government to count more people as employed than in the past. The data is what the data was.//
So not only has it been standard practice in the UK for almost forty years (during which time, if I recall correctly, there were some thirteen years of Labour government - ample time for them to challenge and change the definition) but it is also standard practice internationally.
I quite agree that classing someone as “employed” when they’re working as little as one hour a week is not very helpful (though quite why somebody would bother to get out of bed to do one hour’s work a week is a little unclear). But this question is headed “More Tory Lies”. And it clearly isn’t.
So since we’re talking about “maturity” it pays to be mature enough to do a little research before banging out “More Tory Lies” and the nonsense which followed it. Is that mature enough for you?
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Regarding austerity, we've not discussed that recently.
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Regarding austerity, we've not discussed that recently.
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