Labour= Full Term Abortions

[Spicerack]

on demand.
Don't know has anyone else mentioned it. More important than anything else, imo.
They have vowed to decriminalise abortion which will lead to abortion on demand for any reason up to full term. (If I understand it properly. Admittedly, I haven't fully looked into it yet)

[cassa333]

**This would be the most extreme abortion law in the world. **

Nope. As I said The US is the world leader in the abortion industry.

Governor Northam of Virginia, in a radio interview, gave an instance where a mother who wanted an abortion and that baby was born alive, that it would be kept warm and comfortable and a discussion on what to do with it would happen. The inference was that if the mother so chose, it would be left to die. The Republicans have every work day since tried to pass a bill that would make it a legal requirement to give medical assistance to a born alive baby after a botched abortion. It has been blocked by Democrats to even get to the house floor every single time.

The abortion mill Planned Parenthood who’s main business is abortion successfully sued an undercover reporter who filmed and reported that they sold aborted baby parts and changed the method of the abortion depending on what parts were needed. He was sued for $58m

Also look up partial birth abortion. Gruesome in the extreme. Baby is manipulated to come out feet first. When just the head is in the birth canal and baby is wriggling, legs and arms flailing about desperately trying to get fully born, it’s head neck is broken and it’s head yanked off. That of course means better baby body parts to be sold for profit.

I am no anti abortion. I believe abortion should be available up to the medical point of viability outside the womb, which I believe is about 20 weeks.

But I am appalled and disgusted at the Fervour and cheering and support for full term abortion.

[Cloverjo]

Who is cheering for full term abortion? No one here.
Anyone who needed an abortion would have had it done much earlier.

[Cloverjo]

//Governor Northam of Virginia, in a radio interview, gave an instance where a mother who wanted an abortion and that baby was born alive, that it would be kept warm and comfortable and a discussion on what to do with it would happen. The inference was that if the mother so chose, it would be left to die.//

That sounds like a massively contrived hypothetical situation. I don’t believe that has ever happened, or will happen.

[ummmm]

In an ideal world, yes, but many women don't find out they are pregnant until very late. Also young ladies who go into complete denial.

I'm not advocating late term abortion though. I find the thought very sickening.

[Spicerack]

From Huffpo [There are about 200,000 abortions every year in Britain, with 98% funded by the NHS. The overwhelming majority take place in the first three months, around 8% in the second trimester and fewer than 0.1% after 24 weeks.]
That would be partly down to abortion law in this country. If you don't think those figures will change, why change the law?
[Insiders believe the move will result in an update of the current legal framework and repeal of a Victorian law that still makes abortion a criminal offence.]
Update? It's going to drive a coach & horses through it. Can you have a legal framework around a non-criminal act?
Also according to Huffpo, all the leading British medical associations are in favour of this 'free for all'. I'd be very surprised if that isn't a lie.

[Cloverjo]

I thought they were just going to bring Northern Ireland in line with the rest of the UK on abortion, and about time too. No coach and horses being driven through laws, Spicerack.

[Spicerack]

what is it with Lefties (usually) and full/late term abortions?

[ummmm]

I don't know, SR, enlighten us. I can't believe anyone would back this.

[Spicerack]

This has nothing to do with NI, jo. This is in today's Labour Party Manifesto. (p.48, if you're interested)

[Cloverjo]

This is all I saw on p48 of the manifesto.
///We will uphold women’s reproductive rights and decriminalise abortions.///
That’s it. Nothing about allowing late term abortions or chopping viable babies into bits.

[ummmm]

Abortions are not allowed after 24 weeks unless there is serious risk to the mother or baby.

[Spicerack]

If something is decriminalised, jo, there's nothing to stop people doing it when, where and how they like.
A lot of 'viable babies' are aborted as our law stands now, jo. Don't you know that?

[Spicerack]

I think you might be 'getting it' now, ummmm. If it's decriminalised there'll be no 24 weeks, or 30 weeks, or 38 weeks.

[ummmm]

I know someone who's baby was born at 22 weeks. Besides partial hearing in one ear she was fine.

[ummmm]

I got it in the first place. I've been reading the headlines about it for months and other peoples opinions. I can't open the links as they make me feel sick.

[Mozz71]

Sorry, I don't believe any party would have something so sick in it's manifesto. Its either fake news or party suicide. I lean towards the former.

[ummmm]

It's certainly true in some states in the US.

[emmie]

appalling if remotely true..

[ABSpareEditor]

This thread is now open.

[pixie374]

It looks to be more as removing it as a "crime". Which it never should have been, as it is personal. I can't believe any woman ever "wants" an abortion, let alone a late one...
It would not be something I could personally ever do, once the baby had a chance of existing outside... but if I had to force another woman to go ahead- I don't think I could do that either. I would have to be ready and prepared to adopt the baby myself, or I would be the worst kind of hypocrite.