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youngmafbog | 13:37 Fri 17th Apr 2020 | News
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Where will it go?

Now I am not knocking peoples efforts but I am suspicious of such large sums of money and a monolithic organisation like the NHS.

Will it end up being used 'for the people' or for front line or will it, as usual just disappear into the the useless NHS managers pockets?
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It's a good question.
Good point I wondered about that,
You might be right in regards to it disappearing into the pockets of the managers.
So you've raised money for the NHS, do you take it to your nearest hospital and hand it over to a passing nurse/doctor? Or is there some special protocol that most of the public don't know about?
If you have a particular Hospital or Trust you want to support contact them, otherwise.

https://www.nhscharitiestogether.co.uk/donate/
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Ah, so dissappears into a charity.

I have been unable to find how much the execs take out. Do they work for free does anyone know?

The other problem with this is that the charity will pay for things then the NHS managers dont pay for it so they (the managers) get it anyway.

Doesnt seem very transparent which means it is unfortunately ripe for picking by the usual unscrupulous bunch.
I was having that discussion with err indoors last night, YMB, I'd like to think the best but sadly i suspect the worst.
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But it is,14,49
TBF though, it is a magnificent effort from the old soldier but to put it into perspective, it pays for approx 4 hours of the NHS.
Me too 3 Ts, I hope it doesn’t go to the Trust ‘runners’ I’d like to think it created more drs and nursing staff
All Charities must publish their accounts.


Here are their details for you.

NHS Charities Together is the trading name of the Association of NHS Charities. Registered Charity No 1186569 Company No 12325259

It's always possible to bypass giving via a charity and buy something you know your local hospital/hospice needs if you want to make it a personal donation.
One time I visited a hospital in Kent, had to walk along blood stained corridors, when you passed by Directors staircase had a shag pile carpet deep enough to get yourself lost in, and fresh flowers delivered every day, and being the "board" decided their own salaries. Shear hypocrisy IMHO.
Often used for equipment or to fund specialist staff or training. A huge amount of charitable funding supports the development of nurse specialists who support patients through treatment. The pumps, that deliver drugs are often obtained through donations on a smaller scale. A major effort might pay for a new unit, an MRI scanner or a research programme.

You've told that tale before and my reply is the same now as it was then - I would have gone to the papers - no Hospital should have shag pile carpet anywhere far less blood stained corridors.
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Do you think that the NHS would be better managed by clinicians? The people on the front line?

Do you think that practice managers don't add value by controlling spend, writing contracts, determining treatment schedules and so on?

Do you think that it'd be better if nurses liased with fund managers and wrote the contracts for cleaning staff, caterers, delivery people, security etc?

What about maintenance?

Should that be overseen by anaesthetists?

How would you like to see a monolithic organisation like the NHS managed? Should it be broken up into smaller localised units? Say an NHS for each county?

Funded by a local tax?
I hope the money goes to the front line, to help the nurses and doctors.
It should be used for anything that will help save lives.
I had a look on the NHS Charities Together website and in their News section, there is no mention that I could see of Tom Moore's efforts.
//How would you like to see a monolithic organisation like the NHS managed? Should it be broken up into smaller localised units? Say an NHS for each county?//

It is broken up into smaller localised units - at least as far as treatment goes. From the top of my house I can see a nearby hospital. I can walk there in about fifteen minutes. But I can't be treated there. I happen to live on the edge of an NHS administrative boundary and the hospital is next door. Last summer Mrs NJ had the misfortune to fracture her arm and needed physiotherapy. The accident happened in Greece where she was treated in the local A&E (excellent service: in, examined, X-rayed, diagnosed and strapped up inside 40 mins). Upon returning home she had to attend our local fracture clinic at the one and only hospital we can use (seven miles away, two buses, car parking virtually impossible - even if she was able to drive which, with a broken arm is a bit tricky). Upon discharge she needed physio. The "big" hospital had no physio facilities. A smaller nearer hospital (no A&E) stopped doing physio a couple of years back. No problem, we thought, she'll go to the hospital we can walk to in 15 minutes. No can do. It's not in "your area". She ended up with a sheet of exercises to undertake
from a local "sports injury clinic" which had a contract with our GP. Thankfully no lasting damage done but an absolute farce that she cannot use the facilities of a hospital a mile or so away.

There is no way I would contribute to any collection "for the NHS". I contribute a tidy sum through my taxes but even if I was so inclined I wouldn't do so as, however it is administered, much of it will simple be lost among the accounting noise.
The raised money wiil do a lot of good, but it is money that central Government Should have provided, but hasn’t.
So it is helping the Chancellor the most.

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