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TheDevil | 08:15 Mon 18th May 2020 | News
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I understand, when leading up to elections etc.. there are phrases and lies, constantly pushed in our faces to persuade us to vote. Now, we have a cross party crisis (A pandemic) and we have Gove just spouting what ever he thinks people want to hear, then he contradicts himself.

This government is dangerous, this man is dangerous. Time for a cull, me thinks.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-michael-gove-school-teachers-uk-unions-a9518786.html
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No wonder my daughter, and others like her, are anxious about returning to work. "Yes we can guarantee safety." followed very closely by, "None of us can guarantee safety." Clear as mud.
10:33 Mon 18th May 2020
So jno that leads me to when will it be safe. The answer is probably not until everyone has been vaccinated- so does that mean potentially no school for a year or so?
TheDevil- nothing is ever perfectly safe- even locking ourselves in our rooms carries risks. All we can do is try to minimise the risks in each situation. Should we ban all children from riding bikes or swimming because of accidents?
Children are playing out with each other now. Teenagers are gathering in groups. Some children are in more danger at home than they would be at school
Its seems to me yesterday that people are doing what they want. When you have a statement like the last one we had from Boris ( go back to work if you can) then he says we will look other businesses opening shortly. Well yesterday I passed a Smyths toy store, OPEN, Dunelm, OPEN ???
And? Add garden centres and B&Q to the list . I'm not sure these ever were forced to shut but they are now finding ways of making social distancing work pretty well- limiting numbers, marks on the floor for one way systems and 2m marks, screens between customers and checkout staff, gloves for some staff, no toilets, disinfecting trolleys,
Most other countries are doing it slowly too- some countries are opening restaurants and restarting football, some have opened schools (some never closed them). Are they all wrong to try to get back to some sort of normality in small steps?
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I've been staying alert. The Miss and I have alternate shifts throughout the night just in case Mr Rona comes through the window.
Just a very clear message is needed. (OPEN) your business if you can. BUT, limit intake of customers at one time, AND, make sure you police in store distancing.
Don't any of you leftwaffe eat, have running water or use electricity?
It would seem that people who have kept essential service going are expendable to them Spice.

One of my daughters is pregnant and working 'front line' in a care home, another daughter is a doctor and has been helping out in the Midlands hospitals even though she has severe asthma.

The left want the country to go broke jut so they can say "Nasty tories". It realy is unbelievable.
//I passed a Smyths toy store, OPEN, Dunelm, OPEN//

Really? Fantastic!
You two are obsessed with left and right, its been said many times nothing to do with this situation. I'M TORY (AGAIN) 12.26 your right, (essential) services only, that's what its been about for months, but now that situation is changing.
OH miss right is here, I'm off, have a nice day all, I've had my hour on here. :0)
// Well yesterday I passed a Smyths toy store, OPEN, Dunelm, OPEN ??? //

near here, the doors of the Argos store are "open", and all the lights are on. however on approaching the store, it's clear it's only open for deliveries, and only delivery drivers are permitted inside.
Sadly it has become left and right though.

And everywhere we keep seeing examples of people who were clearly happy for others to take the risk to keep them in creature comforts and now they are being asked to get back to work dont like it. Even though the risk to them is minimal in many case.
Imagine Ken knocking on someone's door,
'I've come for the £800 I'm owed for painting and decorating last week'
Householder, 'But you didn't turn up'
Ken, 'But I got a dodgy ticker. It might have been dangerous if I'd turned up. I still want 100% of the money I would have earned if I'd bothered to turn up'.
I don't go knocking on doors for my money, spice. I get paid once the client is satisfied that I've done a good job. I don't threaten them or anything, I just stand there with a paintbrush in one hand and an open tin of jet black paint in the other.
My daughter is oh so keen to return to work. She had enough time off with her illness then recuperating from the operation. As I said, she had only just returned to work when C19 descended upon us. There has to be minimal risk, though, before she feels comfortable enough to return. I'm sure many other teachers feel the same - no matter who they vote for in general elections:-/
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//There has to be minimal risk, though, before she feels comfortable enough to return.//

I so admire her principled stand. Did she pack her job in and/or sign on the sick? Hope she still has a job to go back to when she feels comfortable .
>Just a very clear message is needed. (OPEN) your business if you can. BUT, limit intake of customers at one time, AND, make sure you police in store distancing.

For once I agree with you, Teacake. But that is in effect what is happening. So why are you objecting to Dunelm and Smyths being open?

If you have evidence though that they have not put such measures in place you could report them to the council or your MP or newspaper or stand outside with a billboard warning potential customers
Unnecessary nasty comment above
Not ff, the one above that

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