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... would like to find some excuse for this second breach of lockdown - after he was well and back at work - and when (presumably) the 'childcare' emergency was no longer valid reason?
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Theland - // Cummings may have great advice for Boris on how to get the economy going, how to pay for the lockdown, how to deal with China, how to progress the EU trade talks .... but ..... we can't ask him, because he flouted a guidance rule.
Crazy! //
Plenty of people thought Harold Shipman was a wonderful GP, but oddly enough, they didn't let him carry on practicing once they found out he was murdering patients.
That is an extreme example, and there exactly is the point - where do you draw the line?
If you give Mr Cummings a swerve because you perceive that his value outweighs is inexcusable behaviour, then where do you stop?
That becomes an argument for anyone who can point out something good to outweigh something bad.
Mussoilini made the trains run on time …
It's not a valid reason.
Crazy! //
Plenty of people thought Harold Shipman was a wonderful GP, but oddly enough, they didn't let him carry on practicing once they found out he was murdering patients.
That is an extreme example, and there exactly is the point - where do you draw the line?
If you give Mr Cummings a swerve because you perceive that his value outweighs is inexcusable behaviour, then where do you stop?
That becomes an argument for anyone who can point out something good to outweigh something bad.
Mussoilini made the trains run on time …
It's not a valid reason.
naomi - // AH, He's been asked - many times - and by several others too. He's been reported - the editorial team are aware. Now I'm telling him. //
Sometimes, when people behave badly towards you, like making unfounded assumptions about you and persistently posting them, even when they are obviously patently untrue, you just have to rise above it - like I do.
Peter Pedant calls me 'Andie' on every post where he refers to me, I have asked him repeatedly not to do it, he ignores me.
Like I say, rise above it.
Sometimes, when people behave badly towards you, like making unfounded assumptions about you and persistently posting them, even when they are obviously patently untrue, you just have to rise above it - like I do.
Peter Pedant calls me 'Andie' on every post where he refers to me, I have asked him repeatedly not to do it, he ignores me.
Like I say, rise above it.
naomi - // /That is an extreme example, and there exactly is the point - where do you draw the line? //
A ridiculous example. There was no line where Harold Shipman was concerned. He was a murderer. No dispute to be had. //
My example of Shipman was the end of the proverbial line, of course it is a ridiculous example.
My point is, the line starts with Mr Cummings being 'let off' and a precedent is set - and that's where the problem starts. If you carry on 'letting people off' because they have value in some area, before long you will get to a Shipman situation, and that is what I am saying.
If you want to draw the line - and as a civilised society we should do - then draw it at the beginning,
A ridiculous example. There was no line where Harold Shipman was concerned. He was a murderer. No dispute to be had. //
My example of Shipman was the end of the proverbial line, of course it is a ridiculous example.
My point is, the line starts with Mr Cummings being 'let off' and a precedent is set - and that's where the problem starts. If you carry on 'letting people off' because they have value in some area, before long you will get to a Shipman situation, and that is what I am saying.
If you want to draw the line - and as a civilised society we should do - then draw it at the beginning,
well thank God andie for your support of free speech !
I get slandered, libelled - and certainly things I dont read the Bible well not in Greek anyway
and whenever I try to open my pretty mouth with some well turned classical gag, someone tries to stick a another gag in it(*) - this is answerbank Andie, not answer-only-when-I say-you-can bank
(*) you know turpentine soaked cloth or something
anyway I thought my whitehall farce bit rather er witty actually
compared to the usual sunday afternoon offerings
I get slandered, libelled - and certainly things I dont read the Bible well not in Greek anyway
and whenever I try to open my pretty mouth with some well turned classical gag, someone tries to stick a another gag in it(*) - this is answerbank Andie, not answer-only-when-I say-you-can bank
(*) you know turpentine soaked cloth or something
anyway I thought my whitehall farce bit rather er witty actually
compared to the usual sunday afternoon offerings
naomi - // AH, unless you intend doing your job as a mod and moderating his antics, mind your own business. //
Unfortunately, Peter Pedant dragging you into his nonsense, like you writing facts about me that are patently untrue, do not transgress Site Rules, so you, like me, will have to learn to rise above it.
Unfortunately, Peter Pedant dragging you into his nonsense, like you writing facts about me that are patently untrue, do not transgress Site Rules, so you, like me, will have to learn to rise above it.
// the very man who was instrumental in formulating the rules/guidelines //
Not sure Cummings was.
He favoured the original herd immunity policy where there was no lockdown, and it was survival of the fittest. Old people would die, but so what. But then Imperial College projected a death toll over 150,000 and that spooked the Government into a big U-turn.
They were forced to drop Herd Immunity and lockdown, and ignore Cummings’ advice.
Cummings never likes to admit he is wrong, which is why he has ignored the changed advice, and carried on to his original Plan.
Not sure Cummings was.
He favoured the original herd immunity policy where there was no lockdown, and it was survival of the fittest. Old people would die, but so what. But then Imperial College projected a death toll over 150,000 and that spooked the Government into a big U-turn.
They were forced to drop Herd Immunity and lockdown, and ignore Cummings’ advice.
Cummings never likes to admit he is wrong, which is why he has ignored the changed advice, and carried on to his original Plan.
AH, Peter Pedant's antics do transgress Site Rules.
Gromit, that was why I initially supported him, because I didn't see him as being a hypocrite, in the sense that it was the medical people that insisted on the lockdown policy, not him.
However, when it became part of the govt policy, of which he is a part, he needs to face the consequences of being caught breaking those rules.
However, when it became part of the govt policy, of which he is a part, he needs to face the consequences of being caught breaking those rules.
// If you want to draw the line - and as a civilised society we should do - then draw it at the beginning, //
wherever you draw the line, the "edgy" will always feel compelled to nibble at it, and slowly it gets moved.
I'm old enough to remember Bill Grundy baiting the Sex Pistols live on teatime TV. that cost him his job; almost certainly if it happened today, not a word would be said.
wherever you draw the line, the "edgy" will always feel compelled to nibble at it, and slowly it gets moved.
I'm old enough to remember Bill Grundy baiting the Sex Pistols live on teatime TV. that cost him his job; almost certainly if it happened today, not a word would be said.
"Sometimes, when people behave badly towards you, like making unfounded assumptions about you and persistently posting them, even when they are obviously patently untrue, you just have to rise above it - like I do."
Like this?
"If, as usual, you have come on an interesting and developing thread simply to throw your own pointless off-thread animosity in my direction yet again, please stop.
I get it, you don't like me, and I don't care. We have done this to death, so back to the thread shall we?
There's a good chap."
Asking for a friend. X
Like this?
"If, as usual, you have come on an interesting and developing thread simply to throw your own pointless off-thread animosity in my direction yet again, please stop.
I get it, you don't like me, and I don't care. We have done this to death, so back to the thread shall we?
There's a good chap."
Asking for a friend. X
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