Lord Peter Mandelson, Uk Ambassador
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This is exactly why I won't be travelling until this madness is over. Why are these eejits so desperate do visit another country? Now it's a field day for the travel companies who can charge what they like. This was always bound to happen.
This is exactly why I won't be travelling until this madness is over. Why are these eejits so desperate do visit another country? Now it's a field day for the travel companies who can charge what they like. This was always bound to happen.
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//But one thing I'm pretty certain of is that the selfishness of the few that insist on flying abroad for the rest of this year, is that their taking a very high risk to themselves, and may be others, and also reducing the chances of the education system re-opening in full in September, now that will be a disaster in its self.//
On what basis do you say that? Why is there any greater risk to people flying to, say, the Canary Islands than there is to people travelling by train or coach from, say, London to Leicester? Have you looked at the relevant new infection rates for those places - or anywhere else you are suggesting people should desist from visiting?
It is very unlikely that the education system will open properly in September anyway. There is no rational reason for that but rationality does not seem to be a requirement for decision making during this fiasco. Whatever the risk (real or imagined) of people moving about, be it to schools, shops or foreign climes, it cannot be mitigated entirely forever so it might just as well be accommodated now rather than later.
On what basis do you say that? Why is there any greater risk to people flying to, say, the Canary Islands than there is to people travelling by train or coach from, say, London to Leicester? Have you looked at the relevant new infection rates for those places - or anywhere else you are suggesting people should desist from visiting?
It is very unlikely that the education system will open properly in September anyway. There is no rational reason for that but rationality does not seem to be a requirement for decision making during this fiasco. Whatever the risk (real or imagined) of people moving about, be it to schools, shops or foreign climes, it cannot be mitigated entirely forever so it might just as well be accommodated now rather than later.
Flying to the Canary Islands ? mixing/ sitting with crowds of other people from all over the world at x 2 airports, x 2 on the way back, shoulder to shoulder on the plane with people from all different areas of the UK, that's high risk, all for a holiday, Train / coach from London to Leicester, high risk, do it by car, low risk. I don't monitor the infection rates any more because like you I know you won't stop it completely, but may be hold it down until we have some sort of drugs to hold it down a little, notice I say drugs not a vaccine, drugs in most cases stop people from dying. This year is already shot, jobs economy, so may as well do ones best to ride it out, and forget holidays.
// Train / coach from London to Leicester, high risk, //
actually the risk to train passengers is really quite small - https:/
note this makes no allowances for the wearing of masks. if you assume they work, the risk will be even less.
actually the risk to train passengers is really quite small - https:/
note this makes no allowances for the wearing of masks. if you assume they work, the risk will be even less.
//15.35 Tell NJ.//
I already know it's relatively safe to travel by train. One of the reasons for it actually being extremely safe is that passenger train carriages are predominantly full of fresh air at the moment. I know from the considerable number of train journeys I have made in the last few weeks. Why they are empty is that the government has generously guaranteed to finance them until about next spring whether they carry any passengers or not. As a result many of the operators, particularly in April and May, made it very clear that they did not welcome passengers. Some of them (Northern in particular) are still of that persuasion. After all, why bother with tiresome passengers who may want a decent service that runs on time when you can do perfectly well without them? I'll be making another round trip of about 150 miles each way next week and I'll be interested to see whether the situation has altered since the PM's "go back to work" war cry on August 1st (which was, in the main, largely ignored).
The relative "safety"? I'd far rather take the miniscule risk of contracting a fairly rare illness on a train than keeping myself "safe" by driving 300 miles on motorways and A roads.
I already know it's relatively safe to travel by train. One of the reasons for it actually being extremely safe is that passenger train carriages are predominantly full of fresh air at the moment. I know from the considerable number of train journeys I have made in the last few weeks. Why they are empty is that the government has generously guaranteed to finance them until about next spring whether they carry any passengers or not. As a result many of the operators, particularly in April and May, made it very clear that they did not welcome passengers. Some of them (Northern in particular) are still of that persuasion. After all, why bother with tiresome passengers who may want a decent service that runs on time when you can do perfectly well without them? I'll be making another round trip of about 150 miles each way next week and I'll be interested to see whether the situation has altered since the PM's "go back to work" war cry on August 1st (which was, in the main, largely ignored).
The relative "safety"? I'd far rather take the miniscule risk of contracting a fairly rare illness on a train than keeping myself "safe" by driving 300 miles on motorways and A roads.
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