The Most Pointless Job In Politics Is About To Be Announced......

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53920142
....excited?

[Ellipsis]

> If elections are reduced to just two plausible choices then that is not exactly something to be proud of.

Or, like the last one, zero plausible choices.

[jim360]

Yes, I was using "plausible" in the broadest possible sense, of course.

[ichkeria]

The Lib Dems are a powerful force in local politics but nationally they get squeezed out. The bitter experience of the coalition showed how hopeless it is for a small party in a FFTP system not used to such arrangements. The Tories simply ate them up

[drmorgans]

Three times as many votes as the SNP in the 2019 general election and a quarter of the seats. Who says our electoral system is broken?

[ToraToraTora]

Jim: "the last ten years have seen some sadly disastrous decisions on their part" - indeed one terrible error was deciding that they didn't want to be democratic, quiet an admission when it's actually in their party name!

[Gromit]

Was my post deleted?
How strange.

[youngmafbog]

I personally think the lib dem supporters treated Clegg appallingly. The lib dems, a protest party, found themselves in power, people like Clegg and Danny Alexander stepped up and did a Stirling job recognising they had to help run the country and make hard decisions.

Unfortunately their supporters remained as protesters and clearly didnt understand the situation the Party was in.

Gone really downhill since then, a total laughing stock.

[jim360]

We can argue the toss on that one until the cows come home, I'm sure, but it didn't help either, no. On the other hand, if the LibDems had decided to embrace Brexit, would you have been any more likely to vote for them? I'd assume not, as, let's face it, you'd have been right not to believe them. A pro-EU Party sticking to a pro-Eu position was, at least, honest.

The dominant problem that was exposed in 2010-15 was that the LibDems were too Tory for Labour voters, and too Labour for the Tories. Oh, yes, and the disaster of the Student Tuition Fees, which basically destroyed the core of their support almost overnight.

Actually, the entire story of the Coalition saddens me. It was the first time in a while that two parties were working together openly, and the effect has been to destroy the prospects of cooperation between any parties for the foreseeable future.

[theshedman]

Yet another thread that has nothing to do with Boris but gulliver has to mention him yet again. I wish he would get over the crush he has on him.

[jim360]

In the time I was typing that I see that ymb added a post about how LibDem supporters "treated Clegg [and, I suppose, the party as a whole] appallingly". I just wanted to say that I agree with that. If the Coalition represented anything it was pragmatism. Perhaps the LibDems should, instead, have gone into a softer partnership (Confidence and Supply) with the Tories rather than a full Coalition, but those were their only viable choices, and it was simply unreasonable to pretend otherwise.

[youngmafbog]

The Shedman, did you mean Gromit? He seems to have bough Boris into the thread.

[theshedman]

No definately gulliver he brings Boris or Cummings into every post he can. Even ones that have nothing to do with them like this one.

[theshedman]

Sorry about the spelling the A instead of the I again.

[youngmafbog]

Gromits post mentioning BoJo has been removed. I am guessing Gullivers was too. I wont mention it anymore.

[Mozz71]

Gromit, I had what was fundamentally a joke post deleted. It seems like the mods are cutting back on any posts remotely off topic. God forbid anybody should be use humour.

[Mozz71]

JOBSWORTH

NOUN
informal
a person in a position of minor authority who invokes the letter of the law in order to avoid any action requiring initiative, cooperation, etc

[Gromit]

See you all.

I have removed myself from AB.