If Rule Of 6 Doesn’t Work

[eve1974]

The government has given itself two weeks for its “rule of six” coronavirus law to work before it reimposes tougher lockdown measures

Let’s hope new rule works then. I don’t know if enough folk are taking it seriously

[woofgang]

no you can't mingle, you have to socially distance or use the 1m+ rules

[fiction-factory]

Yes, spicerack. I use common sense and can hear what all scientists across the world are saying and what all governments across the world are saying. I don't get my info off youtube, facebook etc/

[nailit]

//no you can't mingle, you have to socially distance or use the 1m+ rules//
So why cant you use that at home with your family?
Ive never been that close to my mum anyway all through lockdown and yet Ive seen pubs where everyone is on top of each other.

[fiction-factory]

A bit of uniformity would be a start.
Cant meet with extended family in your own home but can mingle with strangers in the pub??

You haven't actually suggested anything meaningful. Are you saying we should limit pubs to 6 per person?

Pubs have to show they have Covid measures in place and are checked up on. i doubt every home could be checked.

[nailit]

//You haven't actually suggested anything meaningful. Are you saying we should limit pubs to 6 per person?//
Ive not suggested anything, just stated that there should be uniformity.
Suppose that a couple live in a 10 bedroom mansion. Can they not then have 4 guests at a time?

[fiction-factory]

>FF. You seem to believe anything and everything you're told about Covid. Seems rather strange behavior to me

Not everything, spicerack. I don't believe for example its a hoax or just like flu or part of a conspiracy to turn us into sheep.. I don't agree with everything we're doing- eg quarantining after holidays- but I think we should follow guidance whilst using common sense- eg hug your mum if you are confident both have been social distancing etc but don't hug all your mates at a house party or go to a barbecue for 10

[Spicerack]

If you had gone on to youtube/facebook, etc, you wouldn't be coming out with Botox like 'all the scientists' are saying the same thing.

[fiction-factory]

>Suppose that a couple live in a 10 bedroom mansion. Can they not then have 4 guests at a time?

Not something I lose sleep over. Does it trouble you?

[fiction-factory]

Fair enough spicerack - okay the vast majority of scientists. Someone else clutching at straws I see

[ichkeria]

The PM says another lockdown would be “disastrous” as if it was out of the government’s control.

[fiction-factory]

It would be disastrous. But it might be necessary if the spike continues and translates to a surge in deaths.
So what point are you making ichkeria?

[douglas9401]

'The point' may be that if a lockdown would be disastrous and the government is the organisation to order a lockdown then there will be no lockdown.

We'll just have to dump the terminally risk averse who have had their turn and get on with what comes.

[woofgang]

do we have a link about the two week thing?

[nailit]

//Not something I lose sleep over. Does it trouble you?//
Not at all, never has done.
But ridiculous rules about 6 in a household, get a grip!
When the pubs are packed?

[nailit]

And shopping centres are packed and grouse shoots are allowed?

[pixie374]

Six degrees of separation... assuming you don't have to choose the same 6 people each time... it does seem very arbitrary. Maybe increase social distancing again, rather than number of people. You only really need one to be infected. I'll go along with whatever I'm told (unless my daughter and granddaughter randomly turn up. I won't send them home), but I am struggling with the logic here.

[ichkeria]

“ It would be disastrous. But it might be necessary if the spike continues and translates to a surge in deaths.
So what point are you making ichkeria?”

I’d have thought it was self explanatory. I doubt if anything could be more disastrous than shutting down the country’s economy again. Excusable maybe the first time round, but nigh on insane to do it again. And all for what? Merely to temporarily halt the unhaltable for a time?

[david small]

Couldn’t run a booze up in a brewery springs to mind.
Too many opinions not enough courage.

[Togo]

Of course the rule of six "advice" can work. As long as the six include a no smoking indoors officer, a LGBTWerty enforcement officer, a paper mask enforcement officer, a safe space enforcement officer, an equal opportunities officer, and a hate speech enforcement officer. Phew we are all safe now.

P.S. I read today that a tea cheers yoo nigh on "spokesman" was saying that schools should not be open until they are 100% safe...... I agree! When that happens we can all go back to skool. Job done.

[New Judge]

//...but I think we should follow guidance whilst using common sense//

Alas you cannot do both, f-f. Much of the guidance has no foundation either in science or common sense. The area I live in has a very low rate of infection. The neighbouring area has, for some reason, a considerably higher rate (though still incredibly low, as are most areas in the UK). I am planning to go on holiday next month. Where I am travelling to has an infection rate much lower than where I live (about a quarter, in fact) and considerably lower than my neighbouring area. I can travel to my neighbouring area as often as I like. I can (and do) shop there, go for a meal there, go to a pub there and return home as normal. However, if I go to my chosen place for a holiday I have to quarantine when I return "to avoid spreading Coronavirus." I have five or six times the chance of doing that when I go for a meal a few miles away than when I go on holiday but I am allowed to travel there without restrictions. My common sense would tell me to be far more wary when visiting my neighbouring area than when I go abroad. But I'm not allowed to exercise my common sense.

So it is with the "rule of six". I can mix with five different people in a pub. I can leave the pub and mix with five other people in a nearby restaurant. The five I have left can each do likewise and the thirty of us can all eat in the same place. But I cannot meet more than five of them at one table. It is ridiculous, it is arbitrary and has no basis whatsoever, let alone be founded in common sense.