Not Sure Tiers And Lockdowns Are Working.

[Sunk]

Where I live we have been in tier 3 for 8 weeks including a month long lockdown.

But new cases are rising alarmingly, up 100 on the previous week.

Soon everyone will be in tier 4. But it just isn’t working.

[dannyk13]

It would work if people stuck to the rules.

[emmie]

but people aren;t sheep danny, you can't police it neither. as said before 65 million of us and many are not sticking to any laws.

[bobbinwales]

Yes a survey showed a majority now want a full lockdown. For me close schools as part of that , certainly secondaries.
But the tiers were done because of rising infections. Yes there still rising in some areas so were needed but are much lower than they would of been. The big new factor in SE England is the new variant

[Sqad]

It does in some areas but not something in others.
Compliance is half-hearted which is the main problem.
Why it works in some areas and not in others,remains a mystery.

[emmie]

some on here say they are doing the right thing, fine, but others may no be. Diddly friend has gone to see family, and she won;t be the only one.

[bobbinwales]

A think rules can only get us so far danny. What puzzles me is why some people ignore strong advice and see the rules and guidance as something to beat. Reminds me of lads and girls when at school who wanted to be seen to be naughty thinking it was cool/made them look 'hard'

[emmie]

i only know from friends and family what they have been doing. sticking by rules, guidelines laws, but even so one brother is staying over with his daughter and her family, even now they are in tier 4.

[saintpeter48]

Not working here either, I've just reported an incident outside of the block that I live, a gang of 5 or 6 youths hanging around, smoking and drinking, people having to avoid them by walking in the road, none are wearing masks and just don't give a t0ss that they are putting everyone else at risk, have the police responded ...... of course not!!

[ichkeria]

They probably work fo an extent: However, surely it should have sunk (no pun intended) in that you can only do so much. And that consequently ratcheting up tiers etc is probably more pain than it’s worth.
I am not sure that blaming people who don’t stick to the rules is fair either

[emmie]

which by rights he shouldnt, but apart from me who's to know.

[emmie]

you just can;t police it, no one can, not from the time when this started. some in the spotlight who have bent the rules have been fined, but ordinary joe bloggs no way

[dannyk13]

I know that this not in UK but it is typical of what happens here.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9090409/Neymar-hosts-500-PEOPLE-five-day-festive-party-complete-coronavirus-hit-Brazil.html

[Bobbisox1]

where approx are you Sunk?

[emmie]

whats the answer danny, even a complete lockdown in tier 4, hasn't worked. i don;t have an answer either, but seems there are many who have not complied with the law as it stands.

[Prudie]

I don't know where you are stpeter and know it must be frustrating but in some Tiers (mine for example) you can meet up to 6 people outside and you don't have to wear a mask either (although you are expected to distance). It's not a lot for the police to moan at them about unless they are being a genuine nuisance.

[woofgang]

I have read a few articles about why lockdown doesn't work and the key factor seems to be compliance.

[dannyk13]

//key factor seems to be compliance//
Non-compliance is a major factor.

[teacake44]

Lets face it they are scrapping the barrel now with social distancing here and there it will no longer work. The first one did when everyone was locked down, and that's not going to happen again, its the vaccine or nothing.

[emmie]

we are in tier 4, i can only meet one person outside the home, not to stop me walking round the corner and meeting someone else for say a coffee.

[emmie]

London now 2 percent infection rate, higher than anywhere else in the country apparently. I don;t know you stop it from spreading, we are in close proximty, whether we are shopping or just going about out business, you can;t police 8 million or more of us.