Is The Proposed 1% Rise For Nhs Workers Fair?

[dave50]

Considering what's been going on over the past year, the billions spent supporting the economy and the number of unemployed going through the roof when furlough ends, I think it is. The public sector as usual has been protected from harsh economic reality so none of them can hardly complain. Also there's the usual gushing and worship of the NHS which is used by vested interests to cloud the issue with emotion.

[dannyk13]

Sorry Prudie should be 437. I think brain is heving a meltdown this morning.

[mushroom25]

the unions don't agree 1% is fair.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56288237
other news outlets report threats of strike action.

[emmie]

just what they need, a strike in the middle of a major pandemic.

[dave50]

Predictably the BBC was milking for all it was worth this morning

[THECORBYLOON]

DANNY had all the right numbers but not necessarily in the right order...

[dannyk13]

Corby, lol.

[bobbinwales]

Am not sure what a fair increase would be given that inflations close to zero.
A lump sum thankyou maybe would be a gesture but how much would be needed and am sure whatever amounts given some would say its an insult

[mushroom25]

// A lump sum thankyou maybe would be a gesture //

read somewhere (can't remember where) that if the government had done that instead of investing in the (discredited) track 'n trace initiative, they could have afforded to say "thank you" 5 times over.

[EdmundD]

I caught a segment on the radio this afternoon where a NHS Payroll Manager pointed out that its not generally considered just how generous the NHS Pension Scheme is.

[bednobs]

plus all those people who work for the NHS but are not nurses

[TonyV]

Think you have to look back at previous years wage rises + new nurses are also paying of their student loans.

[TonyV]

Edmund Pension maybe generous but that's after 40 years of work.

[Paigntonian]

Average nursing pay £33,000

[TonyV]

OK Paigntonian don't know where you got your £33K figure from. I found this.

https://www.nhsemployers.org/paytool

[TonyV]

^^^ just putting middle of the road answers in.

[david small]

£27,000 pa. is what my wife was earning as a stroke nurse in the community.

[bobbinwales]

This has been blown out of proportion. That 1% figure is the goverments proposal to the Pay Review Body. The nursing unions asking for 12.5%. The Pay Review Body may take them into account or may ignore them.
1% seems low but is better than 0% and is just above inflation. A dont know what the figure should be but neither does Kier and its never going to be anything like 12.5%. A can see that giving say 5% would lead to simlar demands from care worker's and lots of others in public sectar jobs and would cost billions

[bobbinwales]

//£27,000 pa. is what my wife was earning as a stroke nurse in the community.//
Yes some earn more than the average and some get less. The starting salry is lower £20ks. I seen the average given as 34K but that may not be a correct figure- may exclude trainees or include London allowance's

[Ellipsis]

This tweet from Jay Rayner nails it ...

https://twitter.com/jayrayner1/status/1367851397417476096?s=19

[bobbinwales]

Clever. But what about the doctors and all other NHS staff. Does J Rayner say what should they get ellipsis. 12,5% for everyone?