Another Fatal Dog Attack

[tiggerblue10]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-56624119

This time it was two large dogs. Poor woman! Her family must be devastated and angry. Owner has been bailed.

Do dogs just turn or is it the the way they're trained from puppies? This is why I have a slight fear of big dogs. I walk slowly and calmly past them so as not to trigger them.

[lankeela]

barry the difference is that in the UK dogs are put to sleep humanely not slaughtered wholesale by clubbing or poisoning. The worst thing for the groups that rescue them is to hear that the dog catchers are in town - they are paid for how many they trap and they don't care how they do it. Most have injuries, some severe and will be chucked into a pen with dozens of others where they will kill or be killed when trying to get food. Hardly the same as Battersea.

[pixie374]

Barry, I had one stray from tunisia a few years ago. It was awful. She was only 18 months and had got so much worm damage from living on the streets, I had to have her pts within 3 days. Like pasta, I think, I lost confidence and it very nearly put me off.
I'm not sure I entirely agree with you- any dog that gets a good home, is fine with me- and rescues now have hundreds on their waiting lists. I never contacted Battersea, but how recent is that? However, I wouldn't get a dog from abroad again, due to experience now.

[woofgang]

Tigger " Do they do the same with cats in Battersea?"
The same principles apply (I am a member of Battersea) although there is no dangerous cats act and cats are less likely to be too dangerous to rehome. there is also the option for feral strays to be neutered and integrated into managed feral colonies. Where i live there are loads of farms and stables who have feral cat colonies. In london, its the same, they live in areas that have a vermin problem and where the public do not generally go.

[pixie374]

Also, for the last few years, the prices of all dogs have rocketed. Everybody knows they can get good money by selling a dog, and seem to be doing that, rather than taking to a rescue. Those that actually get that far, with the exception of those rounded up by the shelters, are "unsellable" for some reason.
Even the worst owner will get £2k for their dog, rather than taking it to a shelter.

[barry1010]

Don't get me wrong, I have compassion for all neglected and badly treated animals whichever country they are in.
I would much prefer education, sterilisation and homing in their country of origin, and where necessary humane destruction.

Homing street dogs is no easy matter, it is very hard to even toilet train a dog that is past early puppy hood, never mind acclimatise it to indoor living and the necessary training and discipline every dog needs to be happy. Feral dogs that are used to roaming in a pack may never properly adjust.

[pixie374]

Barry, I do wonder whether she would literally have been better off left on the streets, where she was doing OK. The stress of moving, and moving... maybe didn't help.

[woofgang]

pixie i am sad to hurt you but in the interests of people who may read this and avoid your heartache and stress and pain for a street dog.....I agree with you.

[woofgang]

PS go take a look at Dogstar....ok not european but a different model of animal care and a stunner.

[pixie374]

Will do- and thank you. I came to that conclusion myself, really, but if it avoids anyone else making the same mistake, that's good.

[pixie374]

Dogstar looks like a great idea- I've saved it for when I get paid next :-). Thank you xx

[calmck]

I have fostered 70 plus puppies and dogs over the years. We trap as many pregnant street dogs as possible, sterilise and some might not agree, terminate the pregnancy, and return mum to the street as most street dogs here are fed by local people. Puppies are fostered, vaccinated, sterilised and adopted. Some do go abroad, via a charity, mainly Germany or Holland, but only if a foster or adopter is available. For some reason these countries like smaller dogs. We have only had to put 5 dogs down because of behaviour issues. All are dogs are exposed to children, cats and other dogs. We also work on food aggression and lead training. Our main work is sterilise and release and assisting families who cannot afford sterilisation. If interested see SOS Algarve animals

[pixie374]

Good for you, calmk. I've had a look at that site as well. I'm glad people are doing these kind of things, I'll have a look further.

[tiggerblue10]

I think sterilisation is the best option in those circumstances. I'd like to think it's universal.

[woofgang]

tigger not only is it not universal, some people see street dogs as a harvestable crop for sale to innocent dog lovers. Another good one is Galgos de Sol but the circumstances are different and the supported street dog model won't work.

[barry1010]

The dogs involved in this shocking attack have now been put down. The police are still in the process of establishing the breed

[William51]

Animals can be trained but are unpredictable. They should be under control when out in public. Unfortunately some owners do not know or do not care about controlling their pets.