T R O P Men At It Again.........

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/calderdale-and-bradford-29-men-charged-over-alleged-child-sexual-exploitation-of-female-victim-12304695
why does it take so long to get these savages out of circulation?

[Untitled]

I disagree. I think it is happening on this thread.

[naomi24]

Untitled, your reading would appear to be highly selective. Which bit of //they choose to do it - which is why most Muslim men choose not to.// didn't you understand?

[Untitled]

I had in the mind the part where "a liking for grooming and abusing young women" was described as "a trait" of muslim men.

[naomi24]

Untitled, Ahh, I see. Tarring all comers to a thread by the use of one word is as bad as accusing everyone of damning all Muslims. That said, whilst I, personally, wouldn’t call it a ‘trait’, it’s true that most of the abusers come from certain sections of Muslim society - mainly Pakistani - so that must beg the question ‘Why?’ No?

[barry1010]

Why no criticism of the white, British men (maybe even some Christian church goers) who travel to countries like Thailand for the sole purpose of having sex with girls and boys under the age of 16, or older girls and men who pretend to be? People who are trafficked and forced to sell sexual services.
Is that acceptable to you, TTT?
There is plenty of information online if you unaware.

[Untitled]

It has been repeated numerous times naomi...

'Why?' is indeed a good question worth asking. I do not however think it is justifiable to use crimes like this as a means of demonizing muslims, and I think there was some of this going on earlier in the thread.

[naomi24]

Barry, if that's what you want to talk about may I suggest you start a thread? This is about criminals in this country.

[barry1010]

These British men that travel abroad for underage sex are criminals in this country, Naomi.

[ummmm]

They are still criminals, Naomi, just because it didn't happen in the UK.

[andy-hughes]

I think we need to separate culture from religion.

The ill-thought-out conclusion that's easy to reach is that this behaviour is an inherent part of the Muslim faith.

I believe it is not, but it may be an aspect of Asian male culture, which is not the same thing at all.

I feel the danger is assuming that being a Muslim is an integral and essential aspect of being an abuser, and clearly that lumps together millions of innocent men simply because of their faith.

Faith and culture are connected, but not automatically linked and indivisible.

[naomi24]

Untitled, //I do not however think it is justifiable to use crimes like this as a means of demonizing muslims//

I think what you fail to understand is that comments like ‘their abhorrent behaviour has nothing to do with the fact that they are nominally Muslim.// and claiming they are psychopaths are also inaccurate - but you allow that to pass without comment which would suggest bias rather than a quest for truth - however unpalatable that truth may be.

[naomi24]

barry/ummmm, that isn't what this thread is about.

[Untitled]

you can think whatever you want, naomi. You are not the arbiter of what is true and false I'm afraid.

[pixie374]

9:36. Obviously ttt, but previously you were blaming religion or "Muslims" while entirely ignoring that half are female. Maybe it was just laziness on your part, but you seem determined to draw in millions of people who haven't done anything wrong, in order to excuse those who have, by finding them excuses of religion.

[naomi24]

And neither are you, untitled. That said, I don't post what I 'think' on this subject - I post what I've discovered through investigation. Try it. You might see the light - eventually.

[Untitled]

You do post what you think naomi. So does everyone who comes here.

[Ellipsis]

> T R O P Men At It Again.........

Let's break it down ...

> T R O P

OK, we're talking about Muslims.

> Men

Starting to get somewhere, we're talking about Muslim men.

Wait, is that it? You missed out the "paedophile" bit. Surely you're not suggesting that it's implied ...

[naomi24]

As I said, untitled, not on this subject.

[Spicerack]

I see the deflection has started.
We all defend White/Christian paedos all the time.
And obviously only condemn Pakistani Muslim paedos because we're racist bigots.

[Untitled]

The reason I object to demonization is because I think it is dangerous and malevolent... there are some people in the UK who sincerely want to be rid of the muslims who live here. So what do they do? What they always do... they play the long game. They dehumanize and demonize.

"These people can't be reasoned with."
"They are violent and they mean to harm us."
"They're threatening our children."
"They don't think like we do - they're a threat to our country."
"We're too soft on the likes of them."
"Look at this terrible crime. That's what they're really like - if you disagree, you're a collaborator."

It's always the same... and it is working. On this website I have seen posters advocate for mosques to be bulldozed, for muslims to be incarcerated, for islam to be eradicated.... and it is not just here either... I fully understand how disgusting these crimes are but if they are used to demonize an entire section of society then that will lead to even worse things in the future.