T R O P Men At It Again.........

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/calderdale-and-bradford-29-men-charged-over-alleged-child-sexual-exploitation-of-female-victim-12304695
why does it take so long to get these savages out of circulation?

[Mozz71]

Tora - whose blaming a religion? They happen to be muslim but it's not islam that's doing it.

Then why bring up the fact that they are all Muslim? First and foremost, they are scum. That should be the main focus here. 29 people have been arrested. The streets are a little safer now.

[tamborine]

55 rapes by 29men on ONE girl. Surely she would have STDs & pregnancies requiring medics - and ring alarm bells?

[ToraToraTora]

mozz: "Then why bring up the fact that they are all Muslim? First and foremost, they are scum." - when problem solving we look for patterns, there is an obvious one here. Are we to ignore the truth that is an inconvenience for TROB?

[pixie374]

TTT, yes I do accept that. What I disagree with, is that religion causes normal people to be violent.
Every sane adult is responsible for their own actions. It's literally the definition of it.
So, blaming any religion, is actually, an attempt to excuse their behaviour, as if they can't help it. They don't deserve that. They "can" help it.
So, it's frustrating when people try to blame an inanimate religion, which lets them off.
It is THEIR fault. Stop blaming entire groups, who have done nothing wrong.

[ToraToraTora]

I'm not blaming religion, why do I have to tell you everything 3 times?

[ToraToraTora]

ok night night.

[Jackdaw33]

In a proper, no-holds-barred Muslim country this poor girl would be seen, not as a victim, but an adulteress and would very likely end up being stoned to death.

[pixie374]

Omg, you really are not helping yourself, ttt. I have been talking about patterns already. And the first, is men.
Honestly, why are you ignoring that and going straight onto Muslims?
Do you want a solution, or just not to be in the same g
"group"?
Is looking right more important than solving it?

[Mozz71]

Well make your mind up, either them being Muslim is relevant or it isn't. If you think it is, then you must believe there is some problem in the teachings of Islam that leads men to think this sort of behaviour is acceptable.

[pixie374]

You don't, ttt. Your mansplaining thinks you should :-)

[fender62]

pixie374, there religion give them carte blanche without religious repercussions, i suppose you could say in a deranged way, they think of themselves as very islamic, so what they do sexually is ok as long as
they do not do anything to a fellow muslim girl women, an excuse perhaps.. as i said in a deranged way.

[pixie374]

Fender, out of interest, purely... do you think someone can be forced to do something against their own morals? (No gun to head, etc)

[Ringlet]

This horrified me too, especially as the investigation is centred around one female victim between the ages of 13 and 20 years. 29 men abused that girl during this time. I don't care what nationality, race or religious persuasion they are, they should be exterminated.

[emmie]

should be taken out of the situation and shot - filthy scum

[Deskdiary]

As Naz Shah liked and re-tweeted the following, by dint of which she agreed with it, it's clear whatever has gone on before on this thread, we should not make the connection between these predominantly Muslim gangs and the sexual abuse of non-Muslim girls, all for the sake of harmony.

"Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity."

Call me odd, but I consider the abuse of young girls to be somewhat more important.

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2017/08/23/mp-shares-tweet-saying-abuse-victims-should-shut-their-mouths-for-good-of-diversity-6872181/?ito=cbshare

[emmie]

disgusting people, time that they were thrown into jail and stay there, then deported back to the holes they came from.

[ummmm]

Emmie - looking at their ages I'd guess most were born here.

[emmie]

if so then they should be ashamed, and then thrown into jail for good.
those who weren't born here should be jailed, then when sentence is up, be deported.

[ummmm]

With no appeals.

[rowanwitch]

I think that in many areas of abuse perpetrators will use religion as a tool for manipulation, or a justification for their actions, it's not just Islam, plenty of abuse within fundamentalist Christian families where the ma Lee see women as very much second class and subservient. Girl children are married a s soon as they are legally able, often at the direction of the Elders. Keep religion out of the argument there are good people and bad people, vulnerable and those who take advantage.