Another Lockdown?

[smurfchops]

Do we think Boris would dare to announce another lockdown, possibly in a couple of weeks, the way things are going ? Or will he allow more and more Covid cases to spread all over England? Just asking….

[Ellipsis]

If we are double vaccinated, and we're still not going out, just when will we go out.

I look at it like this: if the virus was as harmful in March 2019 against the unvaccinated as it is now against the vaccinated, it's doubtful that we'd have shut down at all ... unless we feared that the NHS would be overwhelmed.

[naomi24]

Whether Boris allows it or not, more Covid cases will spread over England - but the vast majority will suffer little or no ill effects.

[Peter Pedant]

I will just get my mystic meg crystal barl

no I think he will just let everything rip....

[Sqad]

/////but the vast majority will suffer little or no ill effects.////

Thank God for naomi.

[10ClarionSt]

But why is it spreading in such large numbers? When we have had lockdown for 18 months? Could it have mutated to be a virus that spreads by touch, rather than an airborne one?

[dave50]

Can everyone stop worshiping the NHS as though it was some deity please? The idea now that we have to put our lives on hold every now and again to protect "our beloved NHS" is wearing a bit thin. We pay billions every year into this bottomless pit every year but it seems it's never enough and we must choke the economy so as to wrap it in cotton wool so it doesn't get too busy. It's getting ridiculous. It is there to protect us. It's a flawed health care system that has had its day and we need a new way of providing health care that isn't used as a political football every five minutes.

[naomi24]

But it’s true, sqad. It always has been. You can hide forever if you like but the country has to get back to normal and people have to get on with living.

[Sqad]

dave.....a very brave post for which you have my greatest respect, but unfortunately the British people DO look upon the NHS as "deity" and have never known or experienced for many ,any other health services.

naomi.......you have your views, which I respect bur as I have said, the same people with 5he sameviews are saying the same thing with the same arguments, but decisions have to be made which will almost certainly displease someone, somewhere.

[Ellipsis]

We don't protect the NHS for its sake, we protect it for our sake.

Protecting it might mean seeing it tested to its limits, but not beyond its limits. Otherwise it breaks down and stops serving all the other functions.

If two wards are full of Covid patients at your local hospital, it can probably just about cope. Beyond that, it starts to fall apart.

[bobbinwales]

Great answer ellipsis. Just what I wanted to say but could'nt say it like you did

[gulliver1]

Lets hope Boris doesn't dilly dally with the next lockdown like he did last autumn when he delayed L/D because he believed those dying were over 80 years of age .

[youngmafbog]

// Otherwise it breaks down and stops serving all the other functions.//

But that is exactly what has happened the past 12 months or so. More people are likley to die from this than direct from covid, especially since the medics have worked out how to treat people properly with this new virus.

We must move on, if we dont there wont be any money to pay for "our Amazing" NHS (which is anything but)

Excellent post Dave.

[youngmafbog]

"/////but the vast majority will suffer little or no ill effects.////

Thank God for naomi."

Interesting view Sqad. As a (ex?) medic are you saying the vaccines dont work? (Serious question)

[Ken4155]

I don't believe Boris dare impose another lockdown, However, i do see some restrictions being re-introduced later in the year.

[youngmafbog]

Yes, I agree Ken. It will be done through the back door.

[jim360]

// But that is exactly what has happened the past 12 months or so. More people are likley to die from this than direct from covid... //

In the last 12 months, this is very much not the case. See the link below, which concludes that "[i]t appears clear from evidence to date that government interventions, even more restrictive ones such as stay-at-home orders, are beneficial in some circumstances and unlikely to be causing harms more extreme than the pandemic itself."

https://gh.bmj.com/content/6/8/e006653

[Sqad]

ymf.....I was trying to be sarcastic towards the post of naomi, but failed.........although I 5hink that naomi got my drift.
Of course vaccines "work".

[gulliver1]

09.53, Sajid has been vaccinated twice ,( just saying)

[youngmafbog]

Jim, you wont know about the ones where people have not been diagnosed with things like canceer yet will you.

And it is happening, my daughters cervix check was cancelled and so was my wifes breast scan. You really thin this wont cause any problems in the coming years?

[youngmafbog]

Ah, that explains it SqAD. Thanks for the reply.