Does The West Have An Obligation To Take In Afghan Refugees?

[Untitled]

Coalition was there for 20 years and has left things worse than they found them...

is resettling those who can flee the taliban the least we can do or shall we batten down the hatches and leave them to their fate?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58238490

Link is about the uk obviously but my question is about all parties of the coalition including USA...

[emmie]

no not at any point, sorry to be so hard of heart. Where will 20,000 be housed, fed, schooled, isn't it time to admit that we can't cope at all with the amount of people we already have in UK. I totally agree with NJ>

[Untitled]

"Yes it is because we have been doing it for them for 20 years
As Biden says it is now their turn"

But it is the afghani government who carry that responsibility... and they've gone... average people cannot be expected to fight the taliban when the state will not. Would any of us? I don't think so.

The west - especially America - is in large part responsible for the current catastrophe... we owe those people. Don't have figures to hand but thousands of afghani refugees have been repatriated from Europe to that country because it was deemed safe and are now in serious danger.

not often that I agree with the hated tories but I think Johnson is right here!

[emmie]

so we end up with more refugees, those who will simply form their own community, within this country, as already has happened, they are not westernised, nor do they wish to be. I am sorry but more here means many Brits lose out. Time we stopped pandering and let this one go. Boris isn't right on this.

[Untitled]

it might have been an idea to think about that before we occupied their country... we have wronged thousands of people who will die if they are not resettled and that is in part the fault of the coalition... Would you just allow them to die?

[emmie]

its not entirely our fault that this has happened. The Taliban have taken power and not surprising really. Let people die, that is a bit strong wouldn't you say. The Talibs are killing their own people come what may, what do you propose to do about that

[emmie]

should the coalition forces have stayed in Afghanistan, for how long, for what purpose?

[Redhelen72]

Is this not a problem of our own making? We supplied weapons to help in the fight and then when they became to powerful we invaded.

[Gromit]

We invaded and ousted the Taliban 20 years ago. And now they have taken it back.
We occupied the country and 20,000 helped us. Now we have to do the right thing and protect them because we have left.
The real culprits are the US who had no real from the start.

[emmie]

this mass evacuation of British and US personnel means that a lot of the kit is left behind, useful in quelling any dissent i would think. I saw members of the Taliban riding on a tank, courtesy of the Americans pull out.

[emmie]

how do you know who and how many helped us? certainly there were interpreters and their families, but who else....

[Untitled]

"Let people die, that is a bit strong wouldn't you say."

No it is not emmie... i believe something like 86,000 afghans were employed by the coalition, more through indirect contractors, and even more Afghanis are now in serious danger. We (the coalition not just uk) promised to train up their government forces and absolutely failed... this is on us. If we do not help them they will be killed. Taliban are already going around making lists apparently

"should the coalition forces have stayed in Afghanistan, for how long, for what purpose?"

no they should not in my opinion.... why these evacuations were left to the last minute is anybody's guess. Occupying the country was a very foolish thing to do.

[Gromit]

Boris and Patel’s immigration policy is in tatters.
Probably 20,000 boat people by the end of the year, 20,000 Afghanis.
The only people they are successfully stopping coming are the doctors, nurses, lorry drivers and IT geniuses.

[emmie]

agree that it was stupid to go in in the first place, but they did and for 20 years things have been somewhat settled, general Afghanis seemed to have welcomed the coalition forces. Personally i think the place is a s hole, and one we should stay out of.

[Untitled]

The "tens of thousands" immigration target has always been foolish... it was a silly campaign slogan designed to appeal to those who erm "have concerns" about immigration (lol). Not a real/valid policy with any standing in reality... so long as they count international students as immigrants that alone makes it impossible to achieve!!

[Untitled]

"Personally i think the place is a s hole, and one we should stay out of"

We can put that on every rejection letter if you like emmie.

[emmie]

we are flooded already with illegal immigrants who should be sent back to their home countries, or the first place they landed after leaving their own homes. I am not hard hearted but enough is enough. this country must start looking after its own first.

[emmie]

do that...

[1ozzy]

Maybe the "civilised" countries should never have involved themselves.
But they did and now some responsibility lies with those countries that shoved their noses in.

[emmie]

were there Australian troops out there? if so they could take their share.

[emmie]

yes there was a considerable Australian force in 2001, so shouldn't Oz take in some refugees...