Pakistan Closes Border To Afghan Refugees

[Stickybottle]

Nice to see the nearby muslim countries are doing their bit - not
What a surprise
Very rude considering they harboured the Taliban for so long

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58187983

[burlyshirley]

13:47 excellent post.

[ichkeria]

"untitled, What Tee Eff are you on about! kin greek fire brigade? Perlease! engage the grey stuff me old china, judge is making you look like a pratt without really trying! "

I don;t think you have been paying close enough attention to all of the weightier contributions (!)

[ichkeria]

... from which just to pick up one little nugget

"the first rule of politics: don't invade Afghanistan"

except that Harold Macmillan wasn't living at the time of international terrorism on the scale that had come to be prevalent by the late 90s early 2000s.
The intervention in Afghanistan was successful in so far as it went: what it was unable to do in the time was to sufficiently bolster the local forces. And it almost ceetainly did, along with the defeat of ISIS, lead to an abeyance of international terror.
People may not like it, but just because you lock yourself away in your shack doesn't mean that the forest fires won't get you

[Peter Pedant]

// untitled, What Tee Eff are you on about! kin greek fire brigade? Perlease! engage the grey stuff me old china, judge is making you look like a pratt without really trying! "//

my god did someone actually write that? or is it a rather sporting spoof? - - - foo!

[New Judge]

//Sorry, but why didn’t you just remain and sort it out yourself instead of relying on others to do it for you?//

For the same reason as I wouldn’t remain in my house if it caught fire. Sorry but your argument is specious.

//The taliban fired into a group of demonstrators just today and killed loads of them.//

You have no idea of the circumstances surrounding that event. Neither have I. The Taliban are now in charge. Demonstrations are not well received. Action was probably taken to prevent recurrences. Once again you make the mistake of believing that Afghanistan should be like the UK. It’s not. It never will be. You don’t get taken to court and get a Conditional Discharge for demonstrating against the government in Afghanistan.

//They have no army to protect them… It sounds to me like you’d rather they be dead in afghanistan than anywhere near here if given the choice.//

I don’t wish anybody dead, anywhere. But it’s not a binary choice. They can remain alive in Afghanistan if they behave and they’re lucky, or if they must decamp they can go somewhere more suited to their culture and lifestyle. But you are quite right – I don’t want them anywhere near here.

The Afghan people must get used to a new regime – one which would have prevailed for the last two decades had the West not interfered in its affairs. England had a similar regime in the Middle Ages. People were punished and many executed for (what are now) the most trivial misdemeanours. Even some sovereigns and their consorts lost their heads. But the majority of the population knew the rules, did not defy or disobey and so they survived. Eventually the country became more enlightened. Witches are no longer burned at the stake; small boys are no longer sent up chimneys; queens are no longer beheaded for alleged infidelity. That’s what should happen in Afghanistan. I doubt that it ever will but if it doesn’t that’s their business, not ours.

[sevenOP]

" queens are no longer beheaded for alleged infidelity"

...and incest.... and treason/ plotting regicide/mariticide/conspiracy- or is that just a theory?___ well, what with all theories in this thread surely another one will do no harm ?

[Untitled]

You are a hypocrite newjudge... you run away in the face of danger and yet you sneer at foreigners for doing the same... you'd do exactly the same in their position. Weare responsible for many of these people being in danger. You cannot go messing around in someone else's country and then wash your hands of the consequences... you just can't. It's evil. We must take our share of those who are fleeing.

[naomi24]

I’m not so sure responsibility for all these refugees is ours, untitled. I’m pondering what might have happened if we’d never gone there at all and can only think that extremism would have taken hold much sooner. The Taliban never went away. Our presence just prevented them from achieving their purpose sooner. I might be wrong but it’s just a thought.

[emmie]

pretty much accord with what NJ was saying Naomi.
colossal waste of lives, money, equipment and so forth.

[William51]

It is completely understandable, Pakistan does not want any Taliban there.