Feel Good Factor

[gulliver1]

Now that Brexit is History, and Britain has taken back control of it's own Borders and surrounding Sea.
Stopped freedom of movement, Stopped immigration and curtailed refugees.
Everything in the Country is plentifull again . Britain is once again a powerfull nation on its own.
Is there now a mighty,..... Feel Good Factor...... all over the Country?.

[ToraToraTora]

judge: "I don't normally engage with Gulliver's threads or posts because they are usually inane drivel." - that sentence alone is worth the BA!

[New Judge]

Quite so, SevenOP. The job is underpaid and undervalued. The working conditions are poor with many drivers spending their working week living in their cabs. I don't think I'd fancy spending fifty hours a week in the cab of a lorry. Their average pay is not much more than £30k, except for some of the much sought after niche jobs such as tanker drivers and car transporter drivers.

By contrast, London Underground drivers have a base pay of £55k with many earning £60k to £70k with overtime. Far less stress and they get to go home at the end of their shift. Similarly train drivers can earn over £60k, with similar far better working conditions.

[Khandro]

The answer is obvious; as there is a shortage of HG drivers throughout the EU, & also for ecological reasons, - stop moving so much stuff around. Is French water any better than English/Scottish water?

Buy locally produced products as much as you can.

[gulliver1]

25.000 E/U Lorry drivers went back to their Countries because of Brexit rules.
That means 25.000 less drivers to deliver goods and foodstocks to a Supermarket near you. Hence the empty shelves.

[sevenOP]

Shocking and unjust pay differences there, NJ.
Hauliers and farmers seem oblivious to their potential bargaining power. Curious...

"Eight days that shook Britain" - 2000 AD

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/924574.stm

[Khandro]

//25.000 E/U Lorry drivers went back to their Countries because of Brexit rules.//

Check the facts before posting gulliver; 1st, 25,000 is a nonsense figure plucked out of the air, 2nd, if 25,000 lorry drivers are now in EU countries, why is there a shortage of them there too?

There are many other factors at play here, a major one being. The malicious enforcement of silly rules trying to harm Britain is definitely also to blame, true, but this is only short term & will be sorted as soon as it starts to impact fully on the EU as well.

[Khandro]

'a major one being covid'

[theshedman]

Khandro, since when has gulliver let the real facts get in the way of him posting his anti brexit or Boris rubbish.

[emmie]

why do people rise to the bait........

[1ozzy]

Just like fish do.
Easily caught.

[emmie]

he posts tripe and you fall for it every time, at least NJ has some figures to challenge Gully with.

[Bobbisox1]

Yup,

[theshedman]

Posting on here is probably the only interaction gulliver gets with any real people so it would be rude not to answer sometimes. We all know that he hates Boris and the tories but never does he say who he would like to get out of the mess he says we are in all the time.

[emmie]

nor will he, he doesn't have any answers as to who would be better in power.

[sp1814]

Brexit has DEFINITELY had an impact.

Since Brexit, and the UK leaving the single market, the bureaucracy of crossing borders and long queues have meant many lorry drivers decided to work in other EU countries.

A large portion of lorry drivers are paid by the mile or kilometre rather than by the hour, so delays caused by Brexit means they are making the same amount of money in a much longer space of time.

I cut and pasted that - but it's blindingly obvious that the pandemic AND Brexit are to blame.

Before Covid there was a shortage of 60,000 HGV drivers. If your livelihood depends on miles driven and you have to hole up in Dover to two days whilst your paperwork is sorted, you're not going to want to remain in that profession.

But at least Britain is free too trade globally.

(Sigh).

[sp1814]

There are many other factors at play here, a major one being. The malicious enforcement of silly rules trying to harm Britain is definitely also to blame

NO.

Why do people cling onto that one. This is what the UK signed up to. This is the "oven ready deal".

This is the red tape that countries within the EU don't have to face because they are part of a single trading bloc.

Please specify the "silly rules" that the UK have to follow.

[sp1814]

*to not too

[Khandro]

At the moment (I read ) there is a backlog of 30,000 HGV tests due to covid among the testing personnel

[sp1814]

Khandro, and I’ve read that 60,000 have left the profession for good due to the increased amount of paperwork they now have to complete which induce delays at British ports.

Covid absolutely has had an impact but so has Brexit.

The difference is that Covid is temporary whereas Brexit is forever.

[naomi24]

//25.000 E/U Lorry drivers went back to their Countries because of Brexit rules. //

If that's true, there are an awful lot of them out of work because Europe has a similar problem with shortages of drivers.

https://www.bifa.org/news/articles/2018/dec/truck-driver-shortage-crisis-now-spreading-across-the-whole-of-europe