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Brexit?
Anyone know how this Brexit carry-on is doing.(Just asking for a friend).No empty shelves,no rationing of petrol,no asking back all these nasty Europeans we told to *** off back to their own countries or anything?As i said just asking for a friend.
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//As i said just asking for a friend.// ynnafymmi - have you got any friends? Just asking.
07:43 Sun 26th Sep 2021
Brexit was the UKs biggest mistake ever Ynnafymmi, but the Brexiteers will never ever admit they got it wrong. They were conned by the Cons,and now they are paying for it , and it ain't gonna get any better. They think if they keep the blinkers on and keep looking down that tunnel they will eventually see the sunlit meadows that boris promised them.
Emmie, your link proves absolutely nothing, seeing as how it is almost 5 years old. All it tells us is how many EU nationals were living in the UK at that particular point in time - 8 July 2016. The referendum wasn't held until November of that year, and i doubt any of those EU nationals would have upped sticks and left before the result was known.
Your link also shows that there were not 5 million EU nationals in the UK in 2016, but just 2.9 million.
Your link also shows that there were not 5 million EU nationals in the UK in 2016, but just 2.9 million.
//…essentially what has happened is that Esso and BP have reached a point where a large intake of drivers have retired.//
Exactly. And that is not the government’s fault, nor is it the fault of the EU nor of Brexit. Directors and managers run companies, not the government. Haulage companies know when their staff are due to retire, they know their “wastage” rates and they know how many staff they need. The fact that they’ve been providing rubbish pay and conditions and so cannot recruit staff is their fault and nobody else’s. Any losses that are due to Brexit are also theirs to foresee and cure. They know how many of their staff are EU citizens and they’ve had over five years to get used to the idea that the UK will no longer be part of the EU and that some of their staff may possibly leave as a result. Instead many have sat on their hands waiting for the government to “do something.”
So the massive queues outside petrol stations arent a sign of things"grinding to a halt",
The massive queues are caused by stockpiling rather than any overall shortages. Here’s an article from the Grauniad, an organ not particularly renowned for its support of a Tory government:
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“People have been spotted filling up jerry cans with petrol in pictures being circulated on social media.”
If you look at the Daily Mail article I have linked below, you will find a little way down in that article, a picture of a motorist filling six plastic containers full of fuel to go into the boot of her car.
In turn, the media frenzy may have been caused by this:
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Shipping in cheap foreign labour is not the answer to this problem (and it’s a problem, not a crisis). It was doing that over the last forty years that had led to the UK becoming a low-wage low skilled economy. The answer is for employers to pay the proper going rate to its people and to train them up as required, and not import them, ready trained, from abroad when all they will do is simply depress pay. The UK is out of the EU now and, bar an absolute turn of faith – which no major political party seems keen on promoting – it will remain out until the EU is finally wound up as the failed experiment it is. Perhaps you could pass that information on to your friend.
Exactly. And that is not the government’s fault, nor is it the fault of the EU nor of Brexit. Directors and managers run companies, not the government. Haulage companies know when their staff are due to retire, they know their “wastage” rates and they know how many staff they need. The fact that they’ve been providing rubbish pay and conditions and so cannot recruit staff is their fault and nobody else’s. Any losses that are due to Brexit are also theirs to foresee and cure. They know how many of their staff are EU citizens and they’ve had over five years to get used to the idea that the UK will no longer be part of the EU and that some of their staff may possibly leave as a result. Instead many have sat on their hands waiting for the government to “do something.”
So the massive queues outside petrol stations arent a sign of things"grinding to a halt",
The massive queues are caused by stockpiling rather than any overall shortages. Here’s an article from the Grauniad, an organ not particularly renowned for its support of a Tory government:
https:/
“People have been spotted filling up jerry cans with petrol in pictures being circulated on social media.”
If you look at the Daily Mail article I have linked below, you will find a little way down in that article, a picture of a motorist filling six plastic containers full of fuel to go into the boot of her car.
In turn, the media frenzy may have been caused by this:
https:/
Shipping in cheap foreign labour is not the answer to this problem (and it’s a problem, not a crisis). It was doing that over the last forty years that had led to the UK becoming a low-wage low skilled economy. The answer is for employers to pay the proper going rate to its people and to train them up as required, and not import them, ready trained, from abroad when all they will do is simply depress pay. The UK is out of the EU now and, bar an absolute turn of faith – which no major political party seems keen on promoting – it will remain out until the EU is finally wound up as the failed experiment it is. Perhaps you could pass that information on to your friend.
//Your link also shows that there were not 5 million EU nationals in the UK in 2016, but just 2.9 million.//
Nobody knows how many EU citizens were in the UK in 2016. Nobody knows that now. In fact, nobody knows how many people are in the UK or where they are from. All that can be said with any certainty is that more than 5 million people applied for settled status when the scheme for EU citizens closed.
Nobody knows how many EU citizens were in the UK in 2016. Nobody knows that now. In fact, nobody knows how many people are in the UK or where they are from. All that can be said with any certainty is that more than 5 million people applied for settled status when the scheme for EU citizens closed.
Gulliver, //"The Cons didnt want Brexit" {Cameron invented it.) (Boris implemented it)? //
Cameron didn't 'invent' it. He enabled the electorate to vote on it - and rightly so. Sadly for him, it didn't go his way - hence his hasty departure. Fortunately, after the disastrous May's tenure, we got someone with the guts to uphold democracy - something you appear to understand little of.
Cameron didn't 'invent' it. He enabled the electorate to vote on it - and rightly so. Sadly for him, it didn't go his way - hence his hasty departure. Fortunately, after the disastrous May's tenure, we got someone with the guts to uphold democracy - something you appear to understand little of.
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