French Migrants

[Ric.ror]

I know why the migrants in France want to leave their homelands but why don’t they want to stay in France? In other words what is the attraction of being here over any other country?

[Ric.ror]

https://www.gbnews.uk/news/migrant-crisis-people-trafficker-deported-for-third-time/166666

People like this make me more annoyed than seekers
As for homeless - few years ago I was talking to a charity worker who said they were many empty beds but some people just did not want them!

[jno]

if Germany had bombed us this century, Bobbi, yes, why not. And if you spoke German, it would be sensible of you to try to be housed there (if you wanted to).

[Bobbisox1]

I think you’re splitting hairs jno

[jno]

nope, this is exactly what I'm saying about the Iraqi woman, Bobbi. If we invaded her country and bombed it - and ultimately led to Isis taking over because we disbanded Saddam's army, and that's where Isis came from - we owe people there. And I'd say the same if Germany had done as much to us.

One of the normal outcomes of any war is refugees.

[tonyav]

well, the dead woman they identified the other day came from Iraq. So it's possible she had a home and Britain bombed it.

It's also possible that the Americans bombed it, why didn't she make her way to America.

[LadyCG]

Jno, the Iraqi woman you speak of is pictured in yesterday's MoS wearing a very expensive looking long gown and a tiara. Her hair, make-up, jewellery and Hollywood white smile are not indicative of someone rendered homeless and destitute by an allied Air raid.

[tonyav]

Must have a sale on at Harrods, LCG.

[jno]

I didn't see it, LadyCG. When and where was it taken?

[jno]

tonyav, she may have been trying to. But America is very isolated by water and not easy to get to.

[pat2604]

20.55 I really don't understand your logic sometimes Jno!

[Mamyalynne]

Maryam was coming to join her Fiancé.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59439533

[jno]

pat, I think if the British are going to destroy the homes of innocent people, they owe them something. If it turns out she deserved it in some way, if she was an Isis operative or something, then I'll change my mind.

[jno]

that's very sad, Mamya.

It seems to explain why she didn't just stop in France.

[tonyav]

Avatar Image jnotonyav, she may have been trying to.

Doubt very very much.

[jno]

it seems not, tonyav, see Mamya's post.

[pat2604]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/migrant-channel-victims-named-kurdish-b1965135.html

[pat2604]

She was coming illegally after being refused to live here twice. Not a refugee or economic migrant. A student from a family who appear to be quite well heeled.

[jourdain2]

Having lived in France for o.15 years - it is a hard country to live in. Lots of form filling and beaurocracy. Wherever you settle - the Commune and Maire know you are there and report your presence - the tax people are on to you to register within months (even if you are still living with half the house covered in canvas) and if you want any sort of health care you need to register and get your Carte Verte.

For this, you have to prove that you are in receipt of a pension or other funds. If not a pension, then you have to pay into the URSSAF (equivalant of NHS) according to your income.

France is very structured and it is not easy to disappear or work under cover. Whilst I was there an English chap set up as a jobbing builder/odd job man a few miles away (I only heard of him later on).

He had not registered as a business. The gendarmes watched the local DIY stores, noted the purchases and eventually turned up at his home. They saw the completed house, piles of bricks and building materials filling the grounds; told him he was illegally running a business; confiscated his passport and vehicle until they had a clear picture and then gave him passport and car back, together with a booking on a ferry to UK. Everything else, including his house, was seized and he was forbidden re-entry to France.

This may have something to do with it - oh! and it's a tricky language to learn and they won't change their ways to suit immigrants. It's just a bit different to the UK. Does that help?

[jourdain2]

^^^ I was answering OP.

[tonyav]

Very sad outcome, but she wasn't en route to the USA.