Prince Andrew

[calmck]

Just seen a news flash. Andrew stripped of all military honours by HM

[DTCwordfan]

And HRH will be used by Andrew as 'Her Royal Humper.'

[anneasquith]

Job hunting?

[Togo]

I was so looking forward to him being the "one" chosen to dub Blair.

[choux]

Yes, TCL, and as a Duke is entitled to be addressed as "Your Grace". But no longer can he be referred to as a Royal Duke as he has lost the HRH?

[Peter Pedant]

well spotted Mushie
yes - civil

and whilst we are at it - the BURDEN of proof is on the plaintiff and the STANDARD of proof in civil cases is balance of probabilities

and the plaintiff has to show her case
and the defendant does NOT have to disprove anything

and in this instant case - ONE has to be lying ( at least) or have I missed something ?

I am a "disproof disapprover" - more than once I have said froo gritted teef: "we are all agreed - I dont have to disprove this do I? The other person has to prove it."
along with a sinking feeling of "christ they believe the other side and not me"

50% of claims against Jimmy Saville's estate were rejected - wasnt in Dorking when he was said to have dorked someone. wasnt in sleepy hollow when he was said to have slept with someone. Wasnt staying in Bottom Farm when he....(*)

ravine between two hills is called a bottom in Darzet aaaargh

similarly with twin towers

[DTCwordfan]

I've said all along he should become Governor of South Georgia and the Sandwich Islands. Population 30 and 30 million penguins.

[royfromaus]

Andrew ...Formerly known as Prince.

[pixie374]

That's what I said, pp.

[tiggerblue10]

Had to happen at some point so maybe it was for the best to do it before the jubilee year commences.

[tiggerblue10]

Now known as symbol.

[Peter Pedant]

// Yes, TCL, and as a Duke is entitled to be addressed as "Your Grace".// surprisingly chooks
christ you addressed Corbyloon as CBL - he's head of the naming police and was head-hunting the other night ....and went ape-shot when someone wrote TTT instead of ToraToraTora ( bless)(bless all of them, lord love them)

.... grace// as this was the legal basis of Jowett's advice to Edward over the vexed thirties issue of whether Wallis was HRH. Jowett SAID 1937 that Edward was no longer king and so went back to what he was before - Prince of the Realm and so his spouse wd be a Princess and entitled to HRH
THEN 1945 Jowett becomes Lord Chancellor
[ lawyer who served as Lord Chancellor under Clement Attlee from 1945 to 1951.]
Day 2 dring dring dring ( telephone silly)
Edward: Jowett old boy, you know what you said in 1938 phew and charged for

and being a lawyer and an LC and a politician
Jowett did a Boris ( I will let you think about that one)
and said - second opinion - the King is font of all honors and if he says HRH-naaah
then the answer is naaah

Edward had wasted his expensive KC fee ( KC - Queen's counsel when there is a king, that is! I forever keep the av ABer in mind)

so we will have to wait and see what his mum says

( I think she has said " I will pay £5m but I cant be seen to be paying £5m - sell the shalley" )

[burlyshirley]

All I can think about is how the poor Queen must be feeling. She really doesn't need this at her great age and with her platignum celebrations just around the corner. How awful for her. I bet Charles and William have had a hand in this and I don't blame them.

[jno]

sorry, you're quite right, choux, I was forgetting Harry. Not that it's done his reputation much good among the chattering classes; but I've always liked the lad and wish him happiness in his new life.

[Mozz71]

The grand old Duke of York
He had ten thousand men.
He also had an underaged girl
So he won't "royal" again.

[DTCwordfan]

HRH Prince Andrew sat on a wall
Ex HRH had a great fall
All the Queen's Lawyers and Grenadiers
couldn't make Virginia Giuffre a virgin again.

[jno]

choux - not just the TV interview, Andrew stuck his neck halfway in the noose during all this pretrial stuff.

Giuffre agreed a deal with Epstein - he gave her $$$ and she agreed not to sue other potential defendants.

Andrew said "That's me - I'm a potential defendant!"

The judge said it wasn't his job to consider who Giuffre and Epstein might have been thinking about, it should be left to a jury. But basically Andrew had claimed "I can't be sued as a possible sex abuser, because I'm a possible sex abuser."

I'm not too surprised the regiments said "Okay, that's it, somebody get him out of here."

[Peter Pedant]

// That's what I said, pp..//
I particularly enjoyed your remarks about the late Jowett LC

[pixie374]

No idea what that means, pp. You just confirmed everything is weighted towards the defendant, that's all.

[Spungle]

Whilst I wholeheartedly loathe Piers Morgan, I have to agree with him today, "I feel so sorry for the Queen. In the last year she’s lost the love of her life, endured the Monarchy she heads being repeatedly trashed by the Sussex clowns, & suffered what must be any mother’s nightmare over Andrew’s deplorable conduct.
She’s 95, and deserves so much better."

[pixie374]

She does.