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Ukraine - Everyone Called It Wrong
Russia thought victory would take 48 hours.
The US largely agreed.
The EU put a lot of effort into diplomacy to avoid a war believing Ukraine would be no match for the Russian Army, and would fall quickly.
And none of those scenarios have played out. The war is now in day 50.
In Russia there is only fake news and conspiracy theories. Truth is lost there. So they can be forgiven for believing a victory would only take a couple of days. Now that fantasy has had sharp slap in the face by reality and truth.
No sure how the US got it so wrong. They too might have been deluding themselves. They chose to believe that Russia was strong and powerful to justify enormous spending on the military. It doesn’t fit the narrative to say Russia is weak, badly run, and are losers.
The EU largely followed the USA’s wrong assessment. What everyone missed was the resolve and courage of the Ukrainian people.
Now that a quick victory has been averted, we in the west should seize the opportunity. Flood Ukraine with weapons no matter the cost. Double down on sanctions ( they are mostly not working, but they are an irritation). Opportunities like this do not come along very often. A defeat would be good for the Russian people. Their paper tiger leader would fall, and they just might get someone better.
The US largely agreed.
The EU put a lot of effort into diplomacy to avoid a war believing Ukraine would be no match for the Russian Army, and would fall quickly.
And none of those scenarios have played out. The war is now in day 50.
In Russia there is only fake news and conspiracy theories. Truth is lost there. So they can be forgiven for believing a victory would only take a couple of days. Now that fantasy has had sharp slap in the face by reality and truth.
No sure how the US got it so wrong. They too might have been deluding themselves. They chose to believe that Russia was strong and powerful to justify enormous spending on the military. It doesn’t fit the narrative to say Russia is weak, badly run, and are losers.
The EU largely followed the USA’s wrong assessment. What everyone missed was the resolve and courage of the Ukrainian people.
Now that a quick victory has been averted, we in the west should seize the opportunity. Flood Ukraine with weapons no matter the cost. Double down on sanctions ( they are mostly not working, but they are an irritation). Opportunities like this do not come along very often. A defeat would be good for the Russian people. Their paper tiger leader would fall, and they just might get someone better.
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“No sure how the US got it so wrong”
I’m not surprised you haven’t supplied a link because that is complete and utter tosh. Whether even Putin thought it would be over in 48 hours I’m not sure.
Complacency as well as a willingness to believe fake or cowardly intelligence briefings probably
US intelligence and UK for that matter, has been spot on all the way. Even predicting the (since miserably failed) attempted encirclement of Kyiv.
I agree with the rest of it though.
Germany in particular should be ashamed.
Still celebrating the sinking of the Moskva:
«Руський корабль пошел нахуй» :-)
Beware Neptune the God of the Sea
I’m not surprised you haven’t supplied a link because that is complete and utter tosh. Whether even Putin thought it would be over in 48 hours I’m not sure.
Complacency as well as a willingness to believe fake or cowardly intelligence briefings probably
US intelligence and UK for that matter, has been spot on all the way. Even predicting the (since miserably failed) attempted encirclement of Kyiv.
I agree with the rest of it though.
Germany in particular should be ashamed.
Still celebrating the sinking of the Moskva:
«Руський корабль пошел нахуй» :-)
Beware Neptune the God of the Sea
Most likely few knew how incompetent their military was or how vulnerable their equipment. The emphasis seems to be on firing missiles from a distance to flatten towns/cities, and mentioning that they have nukes and are prepared to use them, first use. (One wonders if they are any better prepared their side of their border.)
I think many thought Ukraine might be largely defeated initially but would never "lie down"
Russia simply doesn't have the manpower to subdue a massive and hostile country like Ukraine. The fear was that they'd counter that by simply trying to ethnically cleanse the population through genocide and fear. That bit they certainly appeared to be attempting to an extent.
No one bargained for the incompetence of their military.
Russia simply doesn't have the manpower to subdue a massive and hostile country like Ukraine. The fear was that they'd counter that by simply trying to ethnically cleanse the population through genocide and fear. That bit they certainly appeared to be attempting to an extent.
No one bargained for the incompetence of their military.
// Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley predicted in early February that a Russian invasion of Ukraine could take Kyiv in just "72 hours," a far cry from the monthlong conflict Russia and Ukraine are now engaged in.
Milley delivered the dire prediction for Ukraine to Congress during closed hearings on Feb. 2 and Feb. 3, saying Ukraine would likely lose 15,000 troops compared to Russia's 4,000. //
Milley delivered the dire prediction for Ukraine to Congress during closed hearings on Feb. 2 and Feb. 3, saying Ukraine would likely lose 15,000 troops compared to Russia's 4,000. //
I said Russia estimated 48 hours.
// Konstantin Malofeev said: "Open military conflict between Russia and Ukraine cannot be a war, or, at least, a long-term war, because the difference in military potential is so big that there can be only an operation for forcing the peace.
"It will take 48 hours maximum, and we cannot talk about different fronts." //
The Pentagon were saying 72 hours, and the EU were follow the US script.
The UK made no prediction.
As I have stated many times, Putin made the mistake of believing his own propaganda.
// Konstantin Malofeev said: "Open military conflict between Russia and Ukraine cannot be a war, or, at least, a long-term war, because the difference in military potential is so big that there can be only an operation for forcing the peace.
"It will take 48 hours maximum, and we cannot talk about different fronts." //
The Pentagon were saying 72 hours, and the EU were follow the US script.
The UK made no prediction.
As I have stated many times, Putin made the mistake of believing his own propaganda.
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