Sinking Of The Russian Cruiser Moskva

[Gromit]

The Moskva sank on 14 April 2022 after being damaged by fire. Ukrainian officials said their forces hit Moskva with two R-360 Neptune anti-ship cruise missiles, setting her on fire in heavy seas. The Russian Ministry of Defence said she sank after a fire caused a munitions explosion.

Could this be a turning point in the war ? I hope so.

[Gromit]

// On 13 April 2022, Ukrainian presidential adviser Oleksiy Arestovych and Odesa governor Maksym Marchenko said their forces hit Moskva with two Neptune anti-ship missiles, and she was on fire in rough seas. There were reports of an explosion and fire after involving one of Moskva's exposed deckside missile tubes.
The missiles were apparently fired from a land-based launcher near Odesa, which was located 60 to 65 nautical miles (100 km) away. The cruiser was equipped with a triple-tiered air defence system that if operated properly should have given it three opportunities to defend itself from a Neptune missile attack. Ukrainian sources reported that the attack was supported by a Bayraktar TB2 combat drone, which distracted the Russian ship's defences. On 14 April, the Ukrainian Southern Command claimed that Moskva had capsized and was beginning to sink.

Lithuanian Defence Minister Arvydas Anušauskas claimed that a distress signal had been sent from the ship shortly after it was hit. //

[davebro]

I hope the crew were rescued - they don't deserve to die for Putin's insanity.

[Gromit]

On the other thread, Ich wrote

// Only 14 sailors out of 510 are reported to have survived the missile attack. //

Meanwhile
// The Russian Ministry of Defence said that a fire had caused munitions to explode, and that the ship had been seriously damaged and the crew fully evacuated. //

[dannyk13]

CIA, say that it is possible that the sunken ship has two nuclear missiles aboard.

[Zacs-Master]

It could be a turning point…..for the worse. Putin is embarrassed and May lash out like the child he is.

[Gromit]

// Drones are reported to have been used to harass the vessel and keep its air defences distracted before the missiles were fired from a hidden battery near Odessa. At least two of the missiles are then reported to have struck the ship – causing a massive explosion and inferno as they are believed to have detonated one of Moskva’s exposed deckside missile tubes. //

[ichkeria]

“ Author On the other thread, Ich wrote

// Only 14 sailors out of 510 are reported to have survived the missile attack. //

Yes a correspondent from UNIAN - Ukrainian newsagency - reported that 14 sailors from the Moskva had arrived in a cutter in Sevastopol and the fate of the others was “unknown” - not that they were “missing” so I suppose it’s possible others were rescued.
The missile strikes were reported well before Russia claimed there had had been “a fire on board” and a Russian military site also indicated that the vessel had been hit before - as is often the case - removing the item in question.

[ynnafymmi]

Like Hitler back in 1941 and Blair and Bush back in 2002,Putin didnt put an exit strategy in place before he invaded Ukraine.No"exit strategy",no win.Stupid b*st*rd.

[ToraToraTora]

well it's certainly sent the Russian BS dept into overdrive!

[ichkeria]

Not only the Russian one it seems (!)

[William51]

I do not think i will be a turning point and it will make Putin even more angry. I am worried Russia with its size may win the war in the end after all the heroics and successes the Ukrainians have had, if that happens it will make the West angry too.

[davebro]

It seems Putin has resumed bombing Kyiv in retaliation. He cannot hope to occupy the whole of Ukraine & even if he annexes the Donbas he will face continued conflict. He has turned an uncooperative neighbour into an implacable foe.

[itchycopark]

i don't think Putin can live with defeat and the humiliation that goes with it and if its true he's seriously ill he might think *** and push "the button" on his way out, this goes for his " loyal" generals too .hope those who actually do push the button will think twice, if they dare

[Khandro]

itchycopark; Putin, thank the Lord, doesn't have a button to press, the actual release & launch codes are held by the military, he can only authorise their use.

[itchycopark]

Khandro
i know this
"hope those who actually do push the button will think twice, if they dare"
in my last text

[CrapAtCryptics]

The Russians have just proved themselves liars again. They say they are shelling / bombing Kyiv armament factories because their ship was sunk. Seems like they have forgotten they claimed it was caused by a fire.

[sandra4444]

Putin is getting a lesson in whats a military target and what isn't. Down down down in the deep blue sea 123 :)

[ichkeria]

The Kyiv attacks are ostensibly in “retaliation” for the alleged attacks Russia has accused Ukraine of making across the border in Russia over the last few days.
Their note to Washington this week to stop arming Ukraine is further evidence they are very rattled

[ichkeria]

They still deny the warship was sunk by Ukraine

[ToraToraTora]

....but they are bombing Kyiv in "retaliation"!