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Confidence Vote For Boris Looming?
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Can you hear that noise? No, not the boos and jeers this time.
That is the sound of the death knell for the Prime Minister.
Looks like he will be put out of our misery very shortly.
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All this before the select committee even begin their grilling over whether he lied to parliament. Far better he falls on his sword now.
Can you hear that noise? No, not the boos and jeers this time.
That is the sound of the death knell for the Prime Minister.
Looks like he will be put out of our misery very shortly.
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All this before the select committee even begin their grilling over whether he lied to parliament. Far better he falls on his sword now.
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THECORBYLOON
"you don’t have to be his mouthpiece, even though I do refer to you both as The Hamiltons."
//You need to refer to members by their preferred names or posts will be deleted and you could be suspended.//
I trust that will apply to all of those labelled 5C etc?
Furthermore, I object to being called Fatti. I prefer cuddly, robust or big boned, it’s far more PC.
"you don’t have to be his mouthpiece, even though I do refer to you both as The Hamiltons."
//You need to refer to members by their preferred names or posts will be deleted and you could be suspended.//
I trust that will apply to all of those labelled 5C etc?
Furthermore, I object to being called Fatti. I prefer cuddly, robust or big boned, it’s far more PC.
// because no other leader in the Western world would do that, would they? //
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Ah, you actually want an answer? I reasoned it was rhetorical.
I’d previously referred to you and ToraToraTora as the Hamiltons because you reminded me both of the infamous Neil and Christine in their heyday when he was a Tory MP and she was, well, we all know what she was.
I’ll not refer to such again, they’re history now, a bit like Johnson will be very shortly.
I’d previously referred to you and ToraToraTora as the Hamiltons because you reminded me both of the infamous Neil and Christine in their heyday when he was a Tory MP and she was, well, we all know what she was.
I’ll not refer to such again, they’re history now, a bit like Johnson will be very shortly.
From Sky News.
Has Rees-Mogg changed his tune?
This is an interesting take on Jacob Rees-Mogg's interview with Kay Burley from political editor Beth Rigby.
Mr Rees-Mogg today suggested Boris Johnson would remain PM even if he won by only one vote but Rigby points out...
"Back in 2019, when Theresa May faced a confidence vote, Jacob Rees-Mogg was organising against her.
"And when she lost the support of 117 of her own MPs, he said that was a terrible result and that she should really resign.
"Now he is one of the prime minister's chief cheerleaders, he has a very different take on that."
Rigby's own take on the numbers is this: "If the prime minister loses over 100 MPs, that means he's lost the support of over half of his backbenches. And it's really hard in those situations to see how he can go on.
"It doesn't mean he won't hang in there. But how can you run a government if you can't get legislation through?
"Then it raises the question of at some point he has to call a confidence vote in himself. He has to trigger his own general election.
"So even if he survives, this will go on and on. This is now a rolling crisis, an open civil war in the Conservative Party."
Has Rees-Mogg changed his tune?
This is an interesting take on Jacob Rees-Mogg's interview with Kay Burley from political editor Beth Rigby.
Mr Rees-Mogg today suggested Boris Johnson would remain PM even if he won by only one vote but Rigby points out...
"Back in 2019, when Theresa May faced a confidence vote, Jacob Rees-Mogg was organising against her.
"And when she lost the support of 117 of her own MPs, he said that was a terrible result and that she should really resign.
"Now he is one of the prime minister's chief cheerleaders, he has a very different take on that."
Rigby's own take on the numbers is this: "If the prime minister loses over 100 MPs, that means he's lost the support of over half of his backbenches. And it's really hard in those situations to see how he can go on.
"It doesn't mean he won't hang in there. But how can you run a government if you can't get legislation through?
"Then it raises the question of at some point he has to call a confidence vote in himself. He has to trigger his own general election.
"So even if he survives, this will go on and on. This is now a rolling crisis, an open civil war in the Conservative Party."
More from John Penrose.
The prime minister's anti-corruption tsar has resigned over Boris Johnson's response to the Sue Gray report into partygate - and will vote for him to go tonight.
John Penrose has sent his resignation letter to the PM just hours after it was announced a confidence vote in Mr Johnson's leadership will take place between 6pm and 8pm today.
The MP for Weston-super-Mare has been the UK's anti-corruption champion at the Home Office since 2017 but said he could no longer be in his post as Mr Johnson had not addressed the "failures of leadership and judgment" Ms Gray said had taken place over lockdown-breaking parties in Downing Street.
He said Mr Johnson has therefore breached "a fundamental principle of the Ministerial Code - a clear resigning matter" but said his letter to Lord Geidt, the PM's independent adviser on the code, "ignores this absolutely central, non-negotiable issue completely".
Mr Penrose confirmed to Sky News he will be voting against the PM this evening and said this is "the beginning of the end".
He said: "I'm sorry to have to resign as the PM's anti-corruption tsar but, after his reply last week about the ministerial code, it's pretty clear he has broken it.
"That's a resigning matter for me, and it should be for the PM too."
This is unsurvivable. Seems the standards committee may not even be required if events continue apace?
The prime minister's anti-corruption tsar has resigned over Boris Johnson's response to the Sue Gray report into partygate - and will vote for him to go tonight.
John Penrose has sent his resignation letter to the PM just hours after it was announced a confidence vote in Mr Johnson's leadership will take place between 6pm and 8pm today.
The MP for Weston-super-Mare has been the UK's anti-corruption champion at the Home Office since 2017 but said he could no longer be in his post as Mr Johnson had not addressed the "failures of leadership and judgment" Ms Gray said had taken place over lockdown-breaking parties in Downing Street.
He said Mr Johnson has therefore breached "a fundamental principle of the Ministerial Code - a clear resigning matter" but said his letter to Lord Geidt, the PM's independent adviser on the code, "ignores this absolutely central, non-negotiable issue completely".
Mr Penrose confirmed to Sky News he will be voting against the PM this evening and said this is "the beginning of the end".
He said: "I'm sorry to have to resign as the PM's anti-corruption tsar but, after his reply last week about the ministerial code, it's pretty clear he has broken it.
"That's a resigning matter for me, and it should be for the PM too."
This is unsurvivable. Seems the standards committee may not even be required if events continue apace?
//Mr Johnson has therefore breached "a fundamental principle of the Ministerial Code - a clear resigning matter"//
yeah but no but - Mr J has taken a leaf from the AB and clarified it to :
"a fundamental principle of the Ministerial Code - not a clear resigning matter, in fact often of no note at all"
yeah but no but - Mr J has taken a leaf from the AB and clarified it to :
"a fundamental principle of the Ministerial Code - not a clear resigning matter, in fact often of no note at all"
Sandra4444,
Thanks for the endorsement. Tbf I don’t think THECORBYLOON was pushing an agenda, he or she strike me as apolitical anyway.
I’m just amazed there aren’t more 5C or lefty slurs being handed out but maybe, just maybe some are realising that it’s nothing to do with any opposition MP’s, this whole sorry debacle has been brought about as a result of the PM’s behaviour and actions and it’s his own MP’s who are disgruntled and calling for his head.
As already posted, it’s a civil war in the Conservative party, the opposition are just looking on gleefully from the sidelines.
Thanks for the endorsement. Tbf I don’t think THECORBYLOON was pushing an agenda, he or she strike me as apolitical anyway.
I’m just amazed there aren’t more 5C or lefty slurs being handed out but maybe, just maybe some are realising that it’s nothing to do with any opposition MP’s, this whole sorry debacle has been brought about as a result of the PM’s behaviour and actions and it’s his own MP’s who are disgruntled and calling for his head.
As already posted, it’s a civil war in the Conservative party, the opposition are just looking on gleefully from the sidelines.
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