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Abortion U.s
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Two things I don't understand in regards to the overturning of Roe v Wade.
1. Is it not the case that women choosing to have an abortion can/could do so by taking pills available via the Internet?
2.Can criminalising those who carry out abortions, doctors etc, be anything but pointless when a need for abortions will inevitably be fulfilled by back streets practitioners causing more deaths and adverse health outcomes?
1. Is it not the case that women choosing to have an abortion can/could do so by taking pills available via the Internet?
2.Can criminalising those who carry out abortions, doctors etc, be anything but pointless when a need for abortions will inevitably be fulfilled by back streets practitioners causing more deaths and adverse health outcomes?
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Well pardon me but the idea that the majority of women use abortion as a means of contraceptio
20:49 Fri 24th Jun 2022
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The entire issue of abortion rights needs (and it appears, has) to be removed from a Constitutional Footing and be immediately laid before Congress and be enshrined into Federal Law.
But I imagine few have the guts or the will to take the gamble in doing so.
In the meantime, modern American women now find themselves having their rights to their own bodies constrained by the writings of men made centuries ago...... I bet the irony is lost on them.
But I imagine few have the guts or the will to take the gamble in doing so.
In the meantime, modern American women now find themselves having their rights to their own bodies constrained by the writings of men made centuries ago...... I bet the irony is lost on them.
This is a United States problem. The genie has been out of the bottle for 50 years. If they think they can put it back, let's see where that leads ...
Is the United States a democracy? I would say yes, of sorts, although the ability to change three Supreme Court judges in one four year tenure is a weakness. So this decision is democratic.
What needs to happen now, in those states where abortion is being made illegal, is that people need to get out and vote if they want to change that. If you live in a democracy and you don't like the law, you have an opportunity to change it. There can be no greater advertisement for the benefits of abortion than the genie being out of the bottle for 50 years and then put back in. If even that advertisement isn't sufficient to get people to vote for change, then that's democracy in action ...
Is the United States a democracy? I would say yes, of sorts, although the ability to change three Supreme Court judges in one four year tenure is a weakness. So this decision is democratic.
What needs to happen now, in those states where abortion is being made illegal, is that people need to get out and vote if they want to change that. If you live in a democracy and you don't like the law, you have an opportunity to change it. There can be no greater advertisement for the benefits of abortion than the genie being out of the bottle for 50 years and then put back in. If even that advertisement isn't sufficient to get people to vote for change, then that's democracy in action ...
Just see this on Twitter from someone.
Stop abortion at the source. Vasectomies are reversible. Make every young man have one. When he's deemed financially and emotionally fit to be a Father, it will be reversed. What's that?.
Did the idea of regulating a man's body make you uncomfortable?
Then mind your *******
business
Stop abortion at the source. Vasectomies are reversible. Make every young man have one. When he's deemed financially and emotionally fit to be a Father, it will be reversed. What's that?.
Did the idea of regulating a man's body make you uncomfortable?
Then mind your *******
business
//In the meantime, modern American women now find themselves having their rights to their own bodies constrained by the writings of men made centuries ago...... I bet the irony is lost on them.//
Or in the meantime, modern American women now find themselves having not only the rights to do what they wish with their bodies, both before and after sexual intercourse, but the responsibility for the consequences as well. The responsibility to regulate abortion has been sent back to the people of American(the voters)who must make their own Federal arrangements for such matters, and is no longer deemed to be the responsibility of the Republic. Men" who laid down the Constitution are referenced, in the usual peevish and contemptuous manner, as somehow being targets for blame. When the Constitution was written and passed into law, abortion was a crime in every single State as indeed it was in Countries around the World, and threrefor unlikely to have been drafted with the intent that abortion was a Constitutional right. Back to the States if women want abortions on demand, as it should have been originally. Roe and Casey was a pyrrhic victory, when the abortion lobby stampeded it through the law courts. All this judgement is saying is that women do not have a Constitutional right to abortion ... i.e. the Government of America is not responsible for your abortion. As was said by Justice Alito. “Abortion presents a profound moral question. The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion. Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. The Court overrules those decisions and returns that authority to the people and their elected representatives.”
Just an aside ... the loudest protests are from the vile establishments who have been making $millions from harvesting product from the aborted fetal parts.
Or in the meantime, modern American women now find themselves having not only the rights to do what they wish with their bodies, both before and after sexual intercourse, but the responsibility for the consequences as well. The responsibility to regulate abortion has been sent back to the people of American(the voters)who must make their own Federal arrangements for such matters, and is no longer deemed to be the responsibility of the Republic. Men" who laid down the Constitution are referenced, in the usual peevish and contemptuous manner, as somehow being targets for blame. When the Constitution was written and passed into law, abortion was a crime in every single State as indeed it was in Countries around the World, and threrefor unlikely to have been drafted with the intent that abortion was a Constitutional right. Back to the States if women want abortions on demand, as it should have been originally. Roe and Casey was a pyrrhic victory, when the abortion lobby stampeded it through the law courts. All this judgement is saying is that women do not have a Constitutional right to abortion ... i.e. the Government of America is not responsible for your abortion. As was said by Justice Alito. “Abortion presents a profound moral question. The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion. Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. The Court overrules those decisions and returns that authority to the people and their elected representatives.”
Just an aside ... the loudest protests are from the vile establishments who have been making $millions from harvesting product from the aborted fetal parts.
Not very good at all. One can not compare an issue on whether an individual yet to be born can be stopped by someone choosing to go through a medical procedure, with a situation where one is forcing an undesired medical procedure on someone. If debate is to be reasonable one must try to avoid invalid attempts at comparison.
// all this judgement is saying...//
...is that women no longer have control over their own bodies in upwards of half the States, that a right they have had for 50 years has now been denied them, that if they want to take advantage where that right is available, they will need to travel or take risks that might threaten future ability to have children...or their own lives.
...is that women no longer have control over their own bodies in upwards of half the States, that a right they have had for 50 years has now been denied them, that if they want to take advantage where that right is available, they will need to travel or take risks that might threaten future ability to have children...or their own lives.
{{ // all this judgement is saying...//
...is that women no longer have control over their own bodies }}
This judgement is saying that women must be given back the control of their bodies because the Republic is neither entitled, or of a mind, to be in control of them on their behalf. Abortions have not been banned, but they will certainly not be taken lightly or considered a right from henceforth.
...is that women no longer have control over their own bodies }}
This judgement is saying that women must be given back the control of their bodies because the Republic is neither entitled, or of a mind, to be in control of them on their behalf. Abortions have not been banned, but they will certainly not be taken lightly or considered a right from henceforth.
