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Why All The Hysterics?
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It's hot so what? gawd there are counties in the world that are like this every day, they don't close schools and have national emergency. Same when it snows, why are we so carp at weather? I never had a day off school for weather, ever and I was at school in 1976.
It's hot so what? gawd there are counties in the world that are like this every day, they don't close schools and have national emergency. Same when it snows, why are we so carp at weather? I never had a day off school for weather, ever and I was at school in 1976.
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//…and it is almost certainly due to climate change.// No it’s not. It’s due to something called “weather.” An area of low pressure is forming over the Azores in the Atlantic, to the south-west of the British Isles. Air flows anti-
10:39 Sat 16th Jul 2022
// Can you show me where the government are doing that? Their policies are intended to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. That’s not controlling the climate.//
Their policies may be to reduce greenhouse gases but the entire thrust of “COP26” focussed on the “urgent global action needed to limit global warming to 1.5 °C”. That’s what the headlines to that jamboree focus on. The UK was party to that extravaganza and is committed to that aim. If that is not an undertaking to control the climate, what is it?
//You just can’t be arsed.//
In order for me to be “arsed” (i.e bothered to help impoverish this country, destroy its businesses and the economy generally) there has to be a point. If the UK’s carbon emissions reduced to zero tomorrow (that’s absolute zero, not the fanciful and meaningless “net zero” bandied about) it would make absolutely no difference whatsoever to climate change. None at all. If you believe it would, please let me know how. We’ve set all the good examples, we’ve stopped burning coal (though continue to burn freshly felled wood processed and ferried from 4,000 miles away because the emissions produced do not count), we’re committed to ending IC powered cars and gas powered boilers, we’ve covered the countryside and the coast with inefficient wind turbines. All of these measures (many of which have not been properly thought through) will place an enormous burden on the population.
If we went the whole hog to absolute zero we would reduce the global emissions total by a little under 1%. China (with about 20 times the UK’s population) is responsible for over 30%. By contrast to our efforts, China burns more coal than the rest of the world put together and has no significant plans for that to change. It has been opening a new coal-fired power station every 10-14 days for a number of years and has around 200 more in the pipeline. So the 0.9% (approx.) of global emissions that the UK will save by turning out all the lights will be more than offset by the power stations the Chinese plan to open in the next year or two. And that’s just the Chinese. So our efforts (and our impoverishment) will be absolutely pointless.
I have a very small car and drive fewer than 2,000 miles each year (and in fact for two years recently, considerably fewer than that). My house is well insulated and my energy consumption is about as low as it can get. That’s not for altruistic reasons – I’ve no real interest in cutting my personal carbon emissions for the reasons above. It’s simply because I prefer to spend my cash on something other than energy which has been made expensive by successive governments’ failure to develop a realistic energy strategy. I have no intention of stopping flying (all the people who tell me I should seem to have no compunction to jet around the globe), I have no plans to install an ineffective heat pump to keep my house warm in the winter (I already have a new gas boiler, securely stored in the garage to together with a plumber lined up ready to install it if mine croaks it when they are no longer available. But before you suggest I “cannot be arsed”, it would be nice if you could first think things through for yourself instead of simply following the hysterical fearmongering that seems to have become prevalent with this and every other “crisis” the world encounters.
Their policies may be to reduce greenhouse gases but the entire thrust of “COP26” focussed on the “urgent global action needed to limit global warming to 1.5 °C”. That’s what the headlines to that jamboree focus on. The UK was party to that extravaganza and is committed to that aim. If that is not an undertaking to control the climate, what is it?
//You just can’t be arsed.//
In order for me to be “arsed” (i.e bothered to help impoverish this country, destroy its businesses and the economy generally) there has to be a point. If the UK’s carbon emissions reduced to zero tomorrow (that’s absolute zero, not the fanciful and meaningless “net zero” bandied about) it would make absolutely no difference whatsoever to climate change. None at all. If you believe it would, please let me know how. We’ve set all the good examples, we’ve stopped burning coal (though continue to burn freshly felled wood processed and ferried from 4,000 miles away because the emissions produced do not count), we’re committed to ending IC powered cars and gas powered boilers, we’ve covered the countryside and the coast with inefficient wind turbines. All of these measures (many of which have not been properly thought through) will place an enormous burden on the population.
If we went the whole hog to absolute zero we would reduce the global emissions total by a little under 1%. China (with about 20 times the UK’s population) is responsible for over 30%. By contrast to our efforts, China burns more coal than the rest of the world put together and has no significant plans for that to change. It has been opening a new coal-fired power station every 10-14 days for a number of years and has around 200 more in the pipeline. So the 0.9% (approx.) of global emissions that the UK will save by turning out all the lights will be more than offset by the power stations the Chinese plan to open in the next year or two. And that’s just the Chinese. So our efforts (and our impoverishment) will be absolutely pointless.
I have a very small car and drive fewer than 2,000 miles each year (and in fact for two years recently, considerably fewer than that). My house is well insulated and my energy consumption is about as low as it can get. That’s not for altruistic reasons – I’ve no real interest in cutting my personal carbon emissions for the reasons above. It’s simply because I prefer to spend my cash on something other than energy which has been made expensive by successive governments’ failure to develop a realistic energy strategy. I have no intention of stopping flying (all the people who tell me I should seem to have no compunction to jet around the globe), I have no plans to install an ineffective heat pump to keep my house warm in the winter (I already have a new gas boiler, securely stored in the garage to together with a plumber lined up ready to install it if mine croaks it when they are no longer available. But before you suggest I “cannot be arsed”, it would be nice if you could first think things through for yourself instead of simply following the hysterical fearmongering that seems to have become prevalent with this and every other “crisis” the world encounters.
It's difficult to convince others, whose behaviour is abominable, if your own doesn't show best efforts to achieve what you preach. Clearly that ought not be to a ridiculous level which puts other important things in difficulty but it does mean finding a good balance to try to avoid much of the risk.
// If that is not an undertaking to control the climate, what is it? //
It’s an undertaking to limit the increase in global temperatures caused by the increase in greenhouse gas emissions since the industrial revolution. Natural climate change takes place over many hundreds of years. The recent rapid increase in temperature since the start of the industrial revolution is unprecedented.
// it would make absolutely no difference whatsoever to climate change. //
But it’s not just us, is it? Other countries are committed to reducing their emissions too. If we don’t reduce our emissions, other countries won’t listen to us, or will accuse us of hypocrisy.
And it’s misleading to say that our emissions are only 0.9% of the world’s total. One reason China’s emissions are so high is that they make the stuff that we consume - we have exported a large proportion of our emissions to China and elsewhere. If we didn’t buy their crap, they wouldn’t make it.
// bothered to help impoverish this country, destroy its businesses and the economy generally //
Now who’s ‘following the hysterical fearmongering’?
// we’ve covered the countryside and the coast with inefficient wind turbines //
More hysterical hyperbole.
It’s an undertaking to limit the increase in global temperatures caused by the increase in greenhouse gas emissions since the industrial revolution. Natural climate change takes place over many hundreds of years. The recent rapid increase in temperature since the start of the industrial revolution is unprecedented.
// it would make absolutely no difference whatsoever to climate change. //
But it’s not just us, is it? Other countries are committed to reducing their emissions too. If we don’t reduce our emissions, other countries won’t listen to us, or will accuse us of hypocrisy.
And it’s misleading to say that our emissions are only 0.9% of the world’s total. One reason China’s emissions are so high is that they make the stuff that we consume - we have exported a large proportion of our emissions to China and elsewhere. If we didn’t buy their crap, they wouldn’t make it.
// bothered to help impoverish this country, destroy its businesses and the economy generally //
Now who’s ‘following the hysterical fearmongering’?
// we’ve covered the countryside and the coast with inefficient wind turbines //
More hysterical hyperbole.
I think there is more likelihood of the UK becoming impoverished because of its ridiculous "net zero" policies than there is of it becoming difficult to inhabit because of the effects of climate change. Sri Lanka has seen the effects of so-called "green" policies - its economy has all but collapsed. Germany faces power outages next winter (or even sooner) because of its switch from nuclear and coal generation to dependence on Russian gas. These things are evident and are evident now and there's no hysteria about it.
The fact that we've "exported" makes little difference to our overall output. If we hadn't done so, even if our current emissions are only half what they might have been (and that's probably being generous) we would still be responsible for less than 2%.
Other countries may be "committed" to reducing emissions, but the proof of the pudding, etc. If you examine China's energy strategy closely you will see lots of fine words, but little in the way of action.
We won't agree on this but suffice it to say that I have no intention of drastically altering my lifestyle whilst China is burning more than half the world's coal. It would be peeing in the wind.
The fact that we've "exported" makes little difference to our overall output. If we hadn't done so, even if our current emissions are only half what they might have been (and that's probably being generous) we would still be responsible for less than 2%.
Other countries may be "committed" to reducing emissions, but the proof of the pudding, etc. If you examine China's energy strategy closely you will see lots of fine words, but little in the way of action.
We won't agree on this but suffice it to say that I have no intention of drastically altering my lifestyle whilst China is burning more than half the world's coal. It would be peeing in the wind.
Well surely barry if a person does have serious health problems they stay out of the scorching sun ?? The nanny state rears its head again.
Listening to the news it sounds like the next three days are going to worse than a nuclear apocalypse ! Heaven help us if we have thick and heavy snow in the winter or the wrong type of leaves on the railway lines in the autumn ...
Listening to the news it sounds like the next three days are going to worse than a nuclear apocalypse ! Heaven help us if we have thick and heavy snow in the winter or the wrong type of leaves on the railway lines in the autumn ...
Every year people get burnt to a frazzle (other bacon flavoured snacks are available) and die lobbing themselves into cold water for a laff.
The learning curve is more of a plateau for some, others know what to do day-to-day.
We've weathered COVID, this latest threat too will pass.
Already looking forward to don't eat the yellow snow and put a jacket on brainbox messages later in the year as the TEMPERATURE PLUMMETS.
Scary that folk are so dumb.
The learning curve is more of a plateau for some, others know what to do day-to-day.
We've weathered COVID, this latest threat too will pass.
Already looking forward to don't eat the yellow snow and put a jacket on brainbox messages later in the year as the TEMPERATURE PLUMMETS.
Scary that folk are so dumb.
