Is This What Brexiteers Wanted?

[diddlydo]

Queues at Dover:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-62263176

I wonder how many of those caught up in the queues voted for Brexit. We travelled to France dozens of times when we were in the EU and were never held up at French border control (which was often unmanned as it didn't need to check anything). I hopr Brexiteers are sent to the back of the queue.

[Gromit]

// Such as you gulliver who chooses to ignore the stats and sources supplied by Togo. You just live in a world where you can say what you like and never provide one iota of truth. //

Unfortunately Togo’s stats and sources are easily debunked as nonsense.

[Paigntonian]

Can't believe these liberal idiots are still banging on about Brexit. You're losers. You lost. Go live in one of your favourite European countries if you feel so strongly. Move on, grow up, take up a hobby...anything.

[FatticusInch]

Spoken like…….well, I’m sure you can guess.

[naomi24]

Quite right, paigntonian.

[Khandro]

I'm still waiting for an answer from these losers, (in every sense of the word) to my question, why do you want to be in the EU ?

[Togo]

Back to the op.

//I hopr Brexiteers are sent to the back of the queue.// sic

Brexiteers are not going to be in the queue.

[theshedman]

As the French are not doing much to help with these queues as we have come to expect from them I hope that the holiday makers who are caught up in the queues vote with their feet next year and go somewhere else. When they lose many millions of our pounds they may then think about helping instead of being awkward but I wont hold my breath.

[New Judge]

//Is This What Brexiteers Wanted?//

I imagine it's not what they wanted. But, certainly from my perspective, any attempt at disruption by the French must be entirely expected and anybody believing there would be none must be deluded (either that, or they've been listening to too many politicians, which is the cause of many of such problems).

It is the job of the French to staff their borders appropriately and these delays are caused by French staffing inadequacies. They knew, in June 2016 (i.e. six years ago), that different arrangements would be needed to deal with cross Channel traffic. It's no use saying "it's because of Brexit". It's because the French have failed to adapt to the new requirements, despite having six years' notice. Other countries deal with life as it is, not as they would like it to be. The French should do the same.

[ToraToraTora]

bang on judge.

[Arksided]

They ship folk out fast enough don't they... I can just imagine a French-person on the beach with a tanoy 'Ne les laisse pas rentrer'.

[Khandro]

Why do these blamers that Brexit is the cause of these delays, not understand that although the UK was in the EU single market, it was never part of the borderless Schengen zone, so we have always had passport controls between the UK and France regardless of EU membership, & these delays are solely due to the inadequacies of French customs personnel, (plus a terrible accident & death on the M20) ?

[jourdain2]

Thanks Khandro. We were never part of Schengen, always had to show our passports etc. . So it is obvious that the delays are due to other causes. French intransigence, inefficiency and spite spring to mind.

[gulliver1]

Vulcan @ 14.09. Such as you Vulcan who chooses to live in a world of Make believe, thinking that you were a Squadron Leader in the RAF when you were really just a run- of- the -mill,,, Erk of a NSM.

[JDavis]

Passports have to be checked and stamped whereas travellers previously were waved through at busy times. Obviously this takes longer so how can you say it's nothing to do with Brexit?

[vulcan42]

gulliver I never thought or said I was a Squadron Leader, I was in fact a penguin. I wonder if you're clever enough to work out what that is, without resorting to your usual puerile sarcasm and rudeness.

[New Judge]

//Obviously this takes longer so how can you say it's nothing to do with Brexit?//

Yes, it is to do with Brexit. Brexit meant that new border arrangements would be necessary in France (or out-stationed in the UK) to deal with cross Channel traffic. The responsibility for those new arrangements rests with the French and they had six years' notice to implement them. If they have failed to do so (or wilfully refused to do so) it is their fault. It's no good saying "Ah, but the UK left." They knew we were leaving and if they now preside over inadequate border control, that's their fault.

[New Judge]

To help you along, Gully, a penguin is a flightless bird. The Royal Air Force depends heavily on its squadrons of penguins to keep its flying birds aloft.

[Khandro]

You don't have to fly aircraft to be squadron leader in the RAF

[gulliver1]

N/J @ 22 30 .Help is only needed when asked for.

[Bobbisox1]

Thank God we maintained and kept both the pound and our sovereignty