Just Got My Voting Paper.......

[ToraToraTora]

...voted online for Liz!

[ToraToraTora]

10:24, OK but what do you suggest instead?

[FatticusInch]

ToraToraTora
//it's not entirely contrarian, the party are angry at the way Boris was treated//

Yeah, holding a serial liar to account isn’t within their remit, they had to wait for his own MP’s to finally realise that covering up predatory sexual behaviour isn’t really the done thing any more.

[naomi24]

TTT, //09:59, you say "potty" but offer no alternative. //

That's because there is no viable alternative. I think that's fairly obvious to all - and if it isn't, it should be. What's done is done - and it will be to the detriment not only of the party, but of the country too. I can't support that.

[davebro]

still after your pound of flesh fatticus?

[Ellipsis]

> it's not entirely contrarian, the party are angry at the way Boris was treated and Sunak is seen as the main backstabber so there is a strong ABR tendency in the party.

You're saying that this isn't about who's got the best policies and leadership capabilities to get the country through the perilous state it finds itself in. It's basically playground stuff instead. If Truss's policies cause disaster, that will be a price worth paying because she was ABR.

[davebro]

wot's ABR ?

[FatticusInch]

davebro
//still after your pound of flesh fatticus?//

Just reminding people of the real reason he was removed by his own.
You’re clearly struggling with that too.

[ToraToraTora]

Ellipsis: "You're saying that this isn't about who's got the best policies and leadership capabilities to get the country through the perilous state it finds itself in. It's basically playground stuff instead. If Truss's policies cause disaster, that will be a price worth paying because she was ABR. " - Not entirely but all things being equal people have a favourite and in this process nothing has come from either camp as a show stopper or a clear clincher, thus people go with their default and at the moment that's Truss.

[naomi24]

Ditto dave. What's ABR?

[Ellipsis]

Anyone but Rishi. Basically saying you'd vote for a donkey if it was that or Rishi.

Playground stuff.

[naomi24]

Oh right. Thanks.

[Ellipsis]

> nothing has come from either camp as a show stopper or a clear clincher

Depends what you call a show stopper or clear clincher. Their tax and spending policies are markedly different, for example. Surely one is going to be better for the country than the other.

For me, if I was a Tory party member, with little idea which way to vote based on their respective policies and demonstrated leadership capabilities, then a "clear clincher" would be that a majority of Tory MPs voted for one of the candidates. Given that those MPs will be working under the leader I'm voting for, surely the candidate that most of them wanted would be best for my party and country ...

[naomi24]

//Their tax and spending policies are markedly different, for example. Surely one is going to be better for the country than the other. //

They're both spouting hot air.

[gulliver1]

Truss or Sunak it does not really matter, they will just be caretaker P/M until ,..... Complete change of government at the G/E When the Tory Party will become the opposition Party.

[FatticusInch]

Verbal punch-up amongst the right-wingers?
Not a dry eye in the house! PMSL

[ToraToraTora]

10:55, poor old gully still living in dreamland. Doesn't matter who leads the Tories, Labour have no chance.

[anneasquith]

Labour will have a chance when they vote for a new leader .

[MissTerious]

Haven't looked in the news section or contributed basically because of two idiots. Are they the same person. It would seem so! Bye.

[ToraToraTora]

missterious, you said: "The whole thing is a farce. The whole system needs changing. " - I asked for your suggestion, that's all, why spit the dummy out?

[MissTerious]

Tora. My post had nothing to do with you. I don't consider you an idiot. Quite the reverse. Stay calm

Lottie x