Tory Party Members ...

Ellipsis | 21:21 Wed 31st Aug 2022 | News

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... as you see more and more of Liz Truss on the telly, have you had your equivalent of the Kinnock Moment yet?

Well That Was A Waste Of Time......

Rip Bill Turnbull

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tomus42

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I'm sure Kinnock would have won if he'd had the gumption to wait until after the contest before holding the victory celebration. The sheer smugness of it had the undecideds flocking to vote Tory in their droves. With Truss, most of the votes are already in.

10:07 Thu 01st Sep 2022

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ToraToraTora

We can't change our votes Ellipsis. I voted for Truss because she is the least worst. I'm not a fan of either but that is the choice we have been given. I'd much rather Boris was not deposed by a nonce and a slice of cake.

Ellipsis

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> We can't change our votes Ellipsis.

Oh, apologies, I thought you could.

ToraToraTora

That was an early idea that got dropped.

Ellipsis

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Ah, then we're stuck with Truss ...

ToraToraTora

Should have kept Boris.

Ellipsis

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It doesn't say a lot for the Tories, or the state of politics generally, that having deposed Boris the best they could come up with to replace him was this ...

ToraToraTora

Well the last two where not the best, they were the ones that were favoured by the MPs not the membership. I would have preferred Mordaunt.

mushroom25

// It's quite absurd that a few thousand members of the blue-rinse brigade can decide who is to be PM for the whole country. //

that's the way it works. in the UK, we don't vote for a prime minister, we vote for an MP to represent our interests in parliament. when all the votes are in, the leader of the party that has the best chance of commanding a majority of confidence in the house, is invited to form a government. in 2019, the conservative party had an overall majority of 80, there was no question of anyone other than that party leader being PM. he has now resigned, and the party are choosing a new leader. when that leader is chosen, the party will still have an overall majority of more than 60, and it will be the leader of that party who will be invited to form a government.

Ellipsis

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> Well the last two were not the best, they were the ones that were favoured by the MPs not the membership. I would have preferred Mordaunt.

Yeah, but the MPs were Tories (and after all have to work with/under whoever ends up winning), and the membership are Tories, so overall my statement "It doesn't say a lot for the Tories, or the state of politics generally, that having deposed Boris the best they could come up with to replace him was this ..." is sadly true.

naomi24

Neil Kinnock's 'moment' was wishful thinking. Having never had the merest sniff at the top job, his 'moment' cannot be compared with the moment Truss is having.

Ellipsis

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Kinnock was on course to win the 1992 General Election but, as the time approached, many voters woke up to what that would mean. The "Kinnock Moment" was not his moment, his finest hour, it was the moment when people realised they weren't going to vote for him after all. I was hoping that could happen with Truss, but apparently not.

ToraToraTora

Yep Kinnochio was winning comfortably until he burgered it up!

tomus42

I'm sure Kinnock would have won if he'd had the gumption to wait until after the contest before holding the victory celebration.

The sheer smugness of it had the undecideds flocking to vote Tory in their droves.

With Truss, most of the votes are already in.

Ellipsis

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> With Truss, most of the votes are already in.

Yes, I didn't realise they couldn't be changed. :(

youngmafbog

//Tory members have undoubtedly voted for the correct candidate - not the dusky coloured one.//

Ah, the AB racist is out again.

How do you get away with it, if TTT posted similar he would be banned. I suppose because its a Tory its ok with the AB mods and EDs.

FatticusInch