Drmorgans, You, like me and Fatticusinch, haven't a clue who this politician is so you can hardly claim their candidate selection is slipshod. I'd hazard an educated guess that the people who voted for the anonymous subject of this conversation don't have a clue who he is either. The 'Red Wall' put their 'x' next to the Conservative candidate not because they were voting for those people on any personal level but firstly because Jeremy Corbyn and his motley crew weren't an option for anyone with an iota of common sense, and secondly, Boris was offering what they wanted - and that's what they voted for. I have friends in the north - lifelong Labour voters - who I advised to hold their noses if necessary as they did it - and do it they did - and for those very reasons. It's an unsavoury truth for some here to accept but nevertheless it is the truth.