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Hunt For On-The-Run Asylum Seeker
gobsmacked is not the word, begining of a giant iceberg for the uk, sadly we will become like sweden, and there rape explosion let alone gangsterism, anyone disagree.
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// Those who drafted A31 were quite clear //
Your tautology I shall not deride. The constant harping on about article 31, I cannot abide!
Last week the humanitarian ship 'Ocean Viking' was refused entry into all Italian ports. This was a serious breach of international maritime law.
In an act of human kindeness, for the first time, the French allowed it to dock at Toulon. Of its 200 plus migrants, the authorities are to deport 40 or so people forthwith having failed in their claims for asylum.
Unfortunately this incident has given rise to political tensions between Italy and France. The Italians insisting the French take their agreed quota. The French have retaliated by reneging on a pledge to allow 3,500 migrant held in Italy to be transferred and subsequently housed in France.
Again another example of what the EU rule book would call a dereliction of duty by the French. Both Hungary and Poland are contravening EU laws on immigration, since they have decided to 'shut up shop' to all migrants.
Can you see the picture?
You can wave the law book around as much as you like. When a nation chooses to ignore the law, short of invasion and successfully overrunning them and bringing them to book, there is little you can do. Take Russia, goodness knows how many international laws they have transgressed.
Other than to add further controversey, any amount of legislation is not going to change a darn thing!
As I have said all along, political will is the key. Should it choose to stand by the conviction of its own legislature, this government or any future British government needs to be brave enough, to bear the condemnation which will inevitably follow, not least the accusations of breaking international laws!
Therefore I implore you, please, please, please stop banging on about article 31.
It's a pointless exercise.
Your tautology I shall not deride. The constant harping on about article 31, I cannot abide!
Last week the humanitarian ship 'Ocean Viking' was refused entry into all Italian ports. This was a serious breach of international maritime law.
In an act of human kindeness, for the first time, the French allowed it to dock at Toulon. Of its 200 plus migrants, the authorities are to deport 40 or so people forthwith having failed in their claims for asylum.
Unfortunately this incident has given rise to political tensions between Italy and France. The Italians insisting the French take their agreed quota. The French have retaliated by reneging on a pledge to allow 3,500 migrant held in Italy to be transferred and subsequently housed in France.
Again another example of what the EU rule book would call a dereliction of duty by the French. Both Hungary and Poland are contravening EU laws on immigration, since they have decided to 'shut up shop' to all migrants.
Can you see the picture?
You can wave the law book around as much as you like. When a nation chooses to ignore the law, short of invasion and successfully overrunning them and bringing them to book, there is little you can do. Take Russia, goodness knows how many international laws they have transgressed.
Other than to add further controversey, any amount of legislation is not going to change a darn thing!
As I have said all along, political will is the key. Should it choose to stand by the conviction of its own legislature, this government or any future British government needs to be brave enough, to bear the condemnation which will inevitably follow, not least the accusations of breaking international laws!
Therefore I implore you, please, please, please stop banging on about article 31.
It's a pointless exercise.
//Saar Offensive before Germany had made a move. //
Presumably you mean the half hearted attempt by the French to divert German troops from Hitler's main offensive in Poland.
The German war machine was not in the least bit interrupted. The French, bless em, had to retreat.
The whole operation proved utterly ineffective!
What ensued was the phoney war.
//You really are full of "it" aren't you.//
//Dunkirk wasn't phoney, you are.//
One consequence of the phoney war was the demotivation and deflation of morale in the French army. A bigger factor was the French command. Generals whose tactics were so deeply entrenched in the lessons of WW1, they failed to comprehend modern day warfare two decades on.
Another oversight was the unguarded flank on the Belgian side of the Maginot line. To borrow a trope, this was to let the Nazis through the back door.
As I said in a previous post, they were ill prepared!
Look! If you're of French bloodstock, I apologise.
In AB exchanges it's so easy to touch on a sensitive or pethaps in this case, a patriotic nerve.
What can be said of the French free army, those soldiers had the hearts of lions. Courageous, dogged, selfless, skilled in combat techniques but sadly, many of them paid the ultimate sacrifice.
I salute them!
Presumably you mean the half hearted attempt by the French to divert German troops from Hitler's main offensive in Poland.
The German war machine was not in the least bit interrupted. The French, bless em, had to retreat.
The whole operation proved utterly ineffective!
What ensued was the phoney war.
//You really are full of "it" aren't you.//
//Dunkirk wasn't phoney, you are.//
One consequence of the phoney war was the demotivation and deflation of morale in the French army. A bigger factor was the French command. Generals whose tactics were so deeply entrenched in the lessons of WW1, they failed to comprehend modern day warfare two decades on.
Another oversight was the unguarded flank on the Belgian side of the Maginot line. To borrow a trope, this was to let the Nazis through the back door.
As I said in a previous post, they were ill prepared!
Look! If you're of French bloodstock, I apologise.
In AB exchanges it's so easy to touch on a sensitive or pethaps in this case, a patriotic nerve.
What can be said of the French free army, those soldiers had the hearts of lions. Courageous, dogged, selfless, skilled in combat techniques but sadly, many of them paid the ultimate sacrifice.
I salute them!
// anyone who thinks they're 'in dire straits' is what is known as a 'useful idiot'. //
It is evident your galoshes are firmly stuck in the mud. Let me change tack. I shall attempt to remove your feet from your wellies.
So, you wouldn't hesitate to call the USA and the UK safe havens?
The UK can certainly boast its adherence to upholding human rights ( Right to health, Right to social security, Right to Education, Refugees and migrants rights etc). A British judicial system seemingly fair and just. Other Westernised countries worldwide, I am sure, would be the first to recognise and commend the UK's record on human rights.where
However we must also acknowledge the UK did not extend its protective arm to shelter Julian Assange. He had to take refuge in the Ecuadorian embassy in London.
Hopefully now you appreciate, when some OPs refer to Albania as being a safe country, it is clearly not for all of its citizens.
Imagine parent with child embarking on a perilous voyage in an overcrowded small boat, in danger of capsizing at any moment. Surely this is testimony to their frightfully desperate lives. Fleeing in fear.
Such is the quantity and busyness of life here in Britain, those genuine cries for help can so easily go unheard.
Therefore let each case be judged on its own merits. Let the world see the UK for what it is - A caring nation!
It is evident your galoshes are firmly stuck in the mud. Let me change tack. I shall attempt to remove your feet from your wellies.
So, you wouldn't hesitate to call the USA and the UK safe havens?
The UK can certainly boast its adherence to upholding human rights ( Right to health, Right to social security, Right to Education, Refugees and migrants rights etc). A British judicial system seemingly fair and just. Other Westernised countries worldwide, I am sure, would be the first to recognise and commend the UK's record on human rights.where
However we must also acknowledge the UK did not extend its protective arm to shelter Julian Assange. He had to take refuge in the Ecuadorian embassy in London.
Hopefully now you appreciate, when some OPs refer to Albania as being a safe country, it is clearly not for all of its citizens.
Imagine parent with child embarking on a perilous voyage in an overcrowded small boat, in danger of capsizing at any moment. Surely this is testimony to their frightfully desperate lives. Fleeing in fear.
Such is the quantity and busyness of life here in Britain, those genuine cries for help can so easily go unheard.
Therefore let each case be judged on its own merits. Let the world see the UK for what it is - A caring nation!
There was a nun on radio just now who was at a mission in Albania - she agreed with am Albanian clergyman who said that their country was being de-populated simple because it's economy is floundering, there is mass unemployment & the people are poor.
Germany has offered incentives for qualified Albanians to re-settle there but many prefer to come to the UK because the speak English and may have contact with Albanians already here.
Germany has offered incentives for qualified Albanians to re-settle there but many prefer to come to the UK because the speak English and may have contact with Albanians already here.
Zebu, If you think parents and children are fleeing France in fear of their 'frightfully desperate lives' your overactive imagination is getting the better of you. The fact is the most of the people coming across the English Channel in small boats are young men - and many thousands of them from Albania. They are not fleeing in fear of their lives. They simply aren't. In fact none of those coming here, whatever the nationality, is fleeing France in fear of his life.
I know nothing of galoshes stuck in the mud, but from what you say I suspect that's precisely where your head is. If you were really so concerned about these people you would be condemning both those who are making fortunes from the regular and reliable transport system that now exists, and the foreign criminals in this country who are encouraging young men to come here to embark on a new-found career in the underworld. You and other virtue-signallers like you are enabling all of that - and that really is nothing to be proud of.
I know nothing of galoshes stuck in the mud, but from what you say I suspect that's precisely where your head is. If you were really so concerned about these people you would be condemning both those who are making fortunes from the regular and reliable transport system that now exists, and the foreign criminals in this country who are encouraging young men to come here to embark on a new-found career in the underworld. You and other virtue-signallers like you are enabling all of that - and that really is nothing to be proud of.
The Mayor of Calais says the crisis will not improve because the British refuse to make themselves less “welcoming”.
I think she might know a thing or two about "migrants".
France again ... "A group of migrants being held in a deportation centre in the southern French city of Perpignan are alleged to have set the detention facility on fire this week after what was claimed to be a coordinated action."
This followed an arson attack on a Catholic Cathedral in Saint-Pol-de-Léon on Thursday evening in what could be just the latest arson attack on a Roman Catholic church in France. No mosques were reported damaged.
I think she might know a thing or two about "migrants".
France again ... "A group of migrants being held in a deportation centre in the southern French city of Perpignan are alleged to have set the detention facility on fire this week after what was claimed to be a coordinated action."
This followed an arson attack on a Catholic Cathedral in Saint-Pol-de-Léon on Thursday evening in what could be just the latest arson attack on a Roman Catholic church in France. No mosques were reported damaged.
//Germany has offered incentives for qualified Albanians to re-settle there//
One could be forgiven if this seemingly kind act of emancipation is in fact to exacerbate the social upheaval that challenges Albanian society.
Is it wise to strip the country of its highly trained professionals and other skilled personnel?
Ought we not question the ethics in removing vital services from a country which so badly needs the benefits of such resources itself?
One could be forgiven if this seemingly kind act of emancipation is in fact to exacerbate the social upheaval that challenges Albanian society.
Is it wise to strip the country of its highly trained professionals and other skilled personnel?
Ought we not question the ethics in removing vital services from a country which so badly needs the benefits of such resources itself?
You and other virtue-signallers...(cut)... nothing to be proud of//
How disappointing that I should be labelled by one of the 7 deadly sins!
It is not proudness I seek, only justice for those under persecution.
// your overactive imagination is getting the better of you.//
Let us remember, first and foremost, Albania is a narco state! The effects of which will be far reaching on ordinary lives. Far more than we could ever imagine.
Today, the country suffers from widespread destitution and civil chaos.
To declare it is a safe country is to dismiss the profound social issues that still exist within.
In particular, many of Albania’s young people face an inescapable choice of either living in poverty or being exploited by drug cartels.
To deny that trafficking, slavery and being pressed into a life of serious crime is folly.
Discerning OPs will adjust their focus!
For one cannot understand the universe if the telescope is permanently trained on the Eagle nebula.
How disappointing that I should be labelled by one of the 7 deadly sins!
It is not proudness I seek, only justice for those under persecution.
// your overactive imagination is getting the better of you.//
Let us remember, first and foremost, Albania is a narco state! The effects of which will be far reaching on ordinary lives. Far more than we could ever imagine.
Today, the country suffers from widespread destitution and civil chaos.
To declare it is a safe country is to dismiss the profound social issues that still exist within.
In particular, many of Albania’s young people face an inescapable choice of either living in poverty or being exploited by drug cartels.
To deny that trafficking, slavery and being pressed into a life of serious crime is folly.
Discerning OPs will adjust their focus!
For one cannot understand the universe if the telescope is permanently trained on the Eagle nebula.
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